It clearly has to do with my internet set-up at home which must favour packet losses given I have no problems when using MiroTalk on Wifi elsewhere. I also have random disconnections when using my mobile internet outside.

However it is also clearly specific to MiroTalk since I have this using using the MiroTalk on Cloudron (always latest package), your MiroTalk demo, but no issues when using Jitsi, mediasoup demo, Google Meet, MS Teams, Zoom.

PS: the behaviour has improved since my last message though (above), now it's back to what it used to be, which is I get kicked out but the reconnection happens automatically within about 3-5s seconds and my camera settings (mainly blur background) are conserved.

If you experience any disconnections, please let me know. It would be helpful if you could provide a screenshot of what you see on the device when it happens, and let me know whether you're reconnected to the room immediately or what exactly occurs.

Hello @mirotalk-57bab571 . So things are different since the updated version. In my first first meeting I had no disconnections so I had great hopes...which sadly got crushed in my second meeting where I had several disconnections. The behavior when the disconnections occur has changed.

• Before, when the connection would drop, this message would appear briefly Lost Connection (Transport Closed), then the page would reload automatically immediately and I would get reconnected to the meeting with both camera and mic off. When turning on my camera back on, the background settings would be lost (say if I have blur before, then on reconnection I would have a clear background).

• Since the new package, when the connection drops I see this (slightly different message):
  

...and that page lasts a bit longer before refreshing and reconnecting (on a couple of occasion I saw a count down appearing on the massage). Then it sometimes takes a couple of refresh before I actually get reconnected properly.

On one occasion I could not reconnect and the app itself became unresponsive. It was show as running on the Cloudron dashboard, when when clicking on it I had the Cloudron error page saying the app was unresponsive. I had to restart the app from the app settings on Cloudron.
On another occasion, right at the start when joining a meeting, I got disconnected right away and on reconnection my external webcam was not recognised anymore and I had to use my laptop one. This had never happened before.

So while clearly something has changed in the way connections are handled, currently the situation/UX has become, I'm afraid, a little worse, but I do not loose hope that this is just a sign of work having started to take place and it'll only get better from here to reach perfection .

Running MiroTalk 1.8.66 btw.

I've made some improvements to the Socket.IO handling in MiroTalk SFU v1.8.64.

If you experience any disconnections, please let me know. It would be helpful if you could provide a screenshot of what you see on the device when it happens, and let me know whether you're reconnected to the room immediately or what exactly occurs.

Thank you!

Work in progress...

Really great to hear. And again thanks for all the work. Keep us updated if you can as for me it has become impossible to keep using it for work but I'm happy to do some testing whenever changes are being implemented.

But there is something about MiroTalk that makes it particularly sensitive to it as does not happen with any other apps.

Work in progress...

But there is something about MiroTalk that makes it particularly sensitive to it as does not happen with any other apps.

For testing purposes, could you also try the official mediasoup demo available here: https://v3demo.mediasoup.org ?

@mirotalk-57bab571 So far I haven't been able to reproduce on the mediasoup demo, but I then went to try on the MiroTalk SFU demo (to check it wasn't specific to my own instance), and there I could reproduce within 5min! I got several / repeated disconnection/reconnection event (still with same message: Lost Connection (Transport Closed)). Btw, when this happened I went straight back to using the mediasoup demo to check and there it was stable.

So that seems to confirm that it has to do with something specific to the implementation in MiroTalk itself, not with Cloudron package specifically and not with the mediasoup sfu logic.

I pasted the log of a meeting when I had lost of disconnections when I updated the github bug report earlier this week in case useful.

At home we have one router and two repeaters. It seems like depending on a how the laptop connects to the broadband impacts how frequently I get disconnections (i.e. whether it connects to a repeater / to the main router / over wifi 5 / over wifi 6E). I also get frequent disconnections when behind a VPN or over 4g/5g.

For testing purposes, could you also try the official mediasoup demo available here: https://v3demo.mediasoup.org ?

If you experience the same behavior as in MiroTalk SFU, you can post your findings directly on the mediasoup support forum: https://mediasoup.discourse.group. You might discover something useful or get help from the community.

At home we have one router and two repeaters. It seems like depending on a how the laptop connects to the broadband impacts how frequently I get disconnections (i.e. whether it connects to a repeater / to the main router / over wifi 5 / over wifi 6E). I also get frequent disconnections when behind a VPN or over 4g/5g.

So while in optimum situations with very direct wifi the issue does not occur and MiroTalk functions correctly, it's still, I believe, a problem with how the app is optimized with regards to packet losses because I none of these issues using Jitsi, Teams, Zoom or Meet.

When I try my connection in any scenarios (at home connected to any device, or on 4g/5g) on here: https://test.vsee.com/network/index.html, it shows always between Good and Excellent.

@mirotalk-57bab571, any clues?

Sometimes there is also aggressive memory management for tabs that wants to unload things that look idle or use a bunch of RAM.

Check the performance settings of the browsers to see if it's set.

In fact I have noticed the issue happen even if no one else is the meeting, so if I leave a meeting running with only me in it, it disconnects every few minutes (though just to be clear, sometimes it holds fine too, but more often than not, I get those disconnections).

@MiroTalk, or anyone else, any clues?

I can't see anything in particular in the logs but happy to share the full log with @MiroTalk if useful.

I tried both with chromium and firefox and on two different servers (both cloudron with fresh install of mirotalk sfu)

I’ve opened a thread here to discuss best strategies for handling unstable connections in mediasoup (built-in MiroTalk SFU server).

Really interesting thread, and making those changes for network interruptions might well work and do the trick for what we've experienced here (preventing the browser to close transport etc.).

I would just like to point out that in my case:

• There does not seem to be any network interruptions when the meeting connection drops. Everything else runs just fine, my wifi stays up and running, pages are loading, downloads are happening, etc.
• The connection to the meeting does already restart automatically, although I don't stay in the room. I am kicked out but I rejoin automatically (I don't need to manually refresh the page).