<![CDATA[server seems to be going to sleep and becomes inaccessible]]>I started to have the IPv6 email bounce again on one of my server and so I did a bunch of (a priori harmless) things to configure IPv6 properly (I had disabled it all before for the server to use IPv4):

  1. activated IPv6 on the network interface on the server
  2. activated IPv6 on Cloudron (Network > IPv6 > Public IP)
  3. added * and @ AAAA record for the domain
  4. Resync DNS from Cloudron interface

All seemed good. Except that after a few minutes, the dashboard and all apps became inaccessible. I tried to SSH into the server and there it said the connection timed out.

I went on Netcup Server Control Panel, reboot the server and it all came back up right away...but then all went down again about 15min later. I tried to power the server on and off, reboot etc. and every time the same thing happens, it all comes back up right away (all services etc. are fine)...but then goes down again after a few minutes. Then I realised that by going Netcup Server Control Panel in the General tab I could access the server from there instead of SSH. Weird things happened:

  1. From the SCP interface the whole server screen looks black (instead, as in my other server, where you can see it's a terminal asking for a username)
  2. when opening the server, it is in graphical mode! I can see a graphical login screen (instead of the usual terminal one) where I can see my username, enter password and then login into a session
  3. just opening the server into the login screen (without even logging in), then the all server, Cloudron and everything else goes back up.

Any clues??

Below is an example of Cloudron log from the point it's working, then a freeze (18:25), then brought back up (22:23):

Feb 11 18:24:30 box:apphealthmonitor app health: 19 running / 3 stopped / 0 unresponsive
Feb 11 18:24:40 box:apphealthmonitor app health: 19 running / 3 stopped / 0 unresponsive
Feb 11 18:24:50 box:apphealthmonitor app health: 19 running / 3 stopped / 0 unresponsive
Feb 11 22:23:20 box:updatechecker checkAppUpdates: Error getting app update info for 1b0f9d03-8de9-46f0-90c2-06355401006e BoxError: getaddrinfo EAI_AGAIN api.cloudron.io
Feb 11 22:23:20 at Object.getAppUpdate (/home/yellowtent/box/src/appstore.js:267:22)
Feb 11 22:23:20 at process.processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:95:5) {
Feb 11 22:23:20 reason: 'Network Error',
Feb 11 22:23:20 details: {},
Feb 11 22:23:20 nestedError: Error: getaddrinfo EAI_AGAIN api.cloudron.io
Feb 11 22:23:20 at GetAddrInfoReqWrap.onlookupall [as oncomplete] (node:dns:120:26) {
Feb 11 22:23:20 errno: -3001,
Feb 11 22:23:20 code: 'EAI_AGAIN',
Feb 11 22:23:20 syscall: 'getaddrinfo',
Feb 11 22:23:20 hostname: 'api.cloudron.io',
Feb 11 22:23:20 response: undefined
Feb 11 22:23:20 }
Feb 11 22:23:20 }
Feb 11 22:23:20 box:shell Running as unit: box-task-18590.service

Update: another thing that I did earlier that day (even before the whole IPv6 stuff was to reboot the server from the Cloudron notifications because of updates...maybe the issue started then, but I don't know as I went on to do the IPv6 changes after the reboot.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/13282/server-seems-to-be-going-to-sleep-and-becomes-inaccessibleRSS for NodeMon, 20 Jul 2026 22:00:51 GMTTue, 11 Feb 2025 23:03:28 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to server seems to be going to sleep and becomes inaccessible on Wed, 12 Feb 2025 19:39:24 GMT]]>@joseph said in server seems to be going to sleep and becomes inaccessible:

The browser is local timezone and the server is UTC. You might have to translate the tz .

I'm in the UK so I believe at this time of year UTC = local time?

@joseph said in server seems to be going to sleep and becomes inaccessible:

I recommend uninstall gnome and friends altogether. I have never done this but I expect this won't happen easily since uninstalling a DE is probably not supported . Easiest way is to set up a new server and migrate using cloudron backups.

Yes starting from fresh seems the most sensible...but I really cannot understand what has happened (like I am 100% positive I haven't installed packages manually). I wonder if this was something to do with Netcup. Also since this morning, the server seems kinda stable...a bit worrying though.

Many thanks for your help.

Update: I was able to track the date as to when those packages were installed...and it was when I upgrade to ubuntu 24.04 on 1st Jan 2025. I did that on three other servers without installing a DE so I guess something must have gone wrong when doing this one. But it means the issue I encountered yesterday was somehow due to something else. Maybe with the DNS changes meant the server had somehow network issues and was kept with no activities for a while which sent it to sleep...I don't know.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/101668https://forum.cloudron.io/post/101668Wed, 12 Feb 2025 19:39:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to server seems to be going to sleep and becomes inaccessible on Wed, 12 Feb 2025 13:13:01 GMT]]>The browser is local timezone and the server is UTC. You might have to translate the tz .

I recommend uninstall gnome and friends altogether. I have never done this but I expect this won't happen easily since uninstalling a DE is probably not supported . Easiest way is to set up a new server and migrate using cloudron backups.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/101648https://forum.cloudron.io/post/101648Wed, 12 Feb 2025 13:13:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to server seems to be going to sleep and becomes inaccessible on Wed, 12 Feb 2025 09:22:32 GMT]]>@jdaviescoates Thank you, much appreciated.

@joseph Many thanks for the reply.

@joseph said in server seems to be going to sleep and becomes inaccessible:

Did you install anything on the server recently?

Nope I didn't install anything manually (say via ssh or otherwise). The only thing I did was to reboot the server from the Cloudron interface to complete updates as per notifications (I did not run the update manually on the server).

@joseph said in server seems to be going to sleep and becomes inaccessible:

Are you saying the server has gnome/xfce/kde?

Yes it looks like it's got Gnome...

Can see it even in the thumbnails from Netcup SCP interface:
a381e3c8-a680-4461-a4ea-3c592cc44b09-image.png
VS b0caeaeb-986a-4936-acb6-d9a39310194c-image.png on another server.

@joseph said in server seems to be going to sleep and becomes inaccessible:

Maybe you can check if those packages are installed?

Seems like there are both Gnome and power management packages installed....which is freaking insane.

root@v2202108132182160313:~# dpkg -l gnome*
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name                                     Version                 Architecture Description
+++-========================================-=======================-============-===========================>
un  gnome-applets                            <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
un  gnome-backgrounds                        <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
un  gnome-bluetooth                          <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
ii  gnome-bluetooth-3-common                 46.0-1ubuntu1           all          GNOME Bluetooth 3 common fi>
ii  gnome-bluetooth-common                   3.34.5-13build3         all          GNOME Bluetooth common files
un  gnome-calendar                           <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
un  gnome-characters                         <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
ii  gnome-control-center                     1:41.7-0ubuntu0.22.04.9 amd64        utilities to configure the >
ii  gnome-control-center-data                1:41.7-0ubuntu0.22.04.9 all          configuration applets for G>
ii  gnome-control-center-faces               1:46.4-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 all          utilities to configure the >
ii  gnome-desktop3-data                      42.9-0ubuntu1           all          Common files for GNOME desk>
un  gnome-documents                          <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
un  gnome-icon-theme                         <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
un  gnome-icon-theme-symbolic                <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
un  gnome-initial-setup                      <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
ii  gnome-keyring                            40.0-3ubuntu3           amd64        GNOME keyring services (dae>
ii  gnome-keyring-pkcs11:amd64               40.0-3ubuntu3           amd64        GNOME keyring module for th>
un  gnome-maps                               <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
ii  gnome-menus                              3.36.0-1.1ubuntu3       amd64        GNOME implementation of the>
ii  gnome-online-accounts                    3.44.0-1ubuntu1         amd64        service to manage online ac>
un  gnome-packagekit                         <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
un  gnome-panel                              <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
ii  gnome-remote-desktop                     42.9-0ubuntu0.22.04.2   amd64        Remote desktop daemon for G>
un  gnome-session                            <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
ii  gnome-session-bin                        42.0-1ubuntu2           amd64        GNOME Session Manager - Min>
ii  gnome-session-common                     42.0-1ubuntu2           all          GNOME Session Manager - com>
un  gnome-session-flashback                  <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
ii  gnome-settings-daemon                    42.1-1ubuntu2.2         amd64        daemon handling the GNOME s>
ii  gnome-settings-daemon-common             42.1-1ubuntu2.2         all          daemon handling the GNOME s>
un  gnome-settings-daemon-schemas            <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
ii  gnome-shell                              42.9-0ubuntu2.2         amd64        graphical shell for the GNO>
ii  gnome-shell                              42.9-0ubuntu2.2         amd64        graphical shell for the GNO>
ii  gnome-shell-common                       42.9-0ubuntu2.2         all          common files for the GNOME >
un  gnome-shell-extension-appindicator       <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
un  gnome-shell-extension-autohidetopbar     <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
un  gnome-shell-extension-caffeine           <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
un  gnome-shell-extension-dash-to-panel      <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
un  gnome-shell-extension-dashtodock         <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
un  gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons      <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
un  gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons-ng   <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
un  gnome-shell-extension-multi-monitors     <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
un  gnome-shell-extension-pixelsaver         <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
un  gnome-shell-extension-prefs              <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
un  gnome-shell-extension-taskbar            <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
un  gnome-shell-extension-top-icons-plus     <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
un  gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock        <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
un  gnome-shell-extension-workspaces-to-dock <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
un  gnome-shell-extensions                   <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
un  gnome-shell-pomodoro                     <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
un  gnome-software                           <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
un  gnome-sound-recorder                     <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
ii  gnome-startup-applications               42.0-1ubuntu2           amd64        Startup Applications manage>
un  gnome-terminal                           <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
un  gnome-themes-standard-data               <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
un  gnome-todo                               <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
ii  gnome-user-docs                          46.0-1ubuntu1           all          GNOME Help
un  gnome-user-share                         <none>                  <none>       (no description available)
un  gnome-weather                            <none>                  <none>       (no description available)


root@v2202108132182160313:~# dpkg -l power*
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name                  Version      Architecture Description
+++-=====================-============-============-===================================================
ii  power-profiles-daemon 0.10.1-3     amd64        Makes power profiles handling available over D-Bus.
ii  powermgmt-base        1.37         all          common utils for power management

@joseph said in server seems to be going to sleep and becomes inaccessible:

This is a DNS resolution error. DNS is not working, test with host api.cloudron.io .

Right so, this seemed to happen as the server wakes up and then it becomes fine (all apps healthcheck fine). I did change the DNS config (i.e. added IPv6 as explained above) so maybe propagation wasn't yet perfect. Anyway I can't see how any of this would be related to the server suddenly a DE 😬

I let the logs open all night and while I can see a pause between 23:37 and 8:30, there are no more DNS errors and the servers has remained up since 8:30. So there are progress. Though in the Cloudron Dashboard it says a backup was completed at 01:10 but I cannot see that in the log...?

Feb 11 23:37:00 box:apphealthmonitor app health: 19 running / 3 stopped / 0 unresponsive
Feb 11 23:37:10 box:apphealthmonitor app health: 19 running / 3 stopped / 0 unresponsive
Feb 11 23:37:20 box:apphealthmonitor app health: 19 running / 3 stopped / 0 unresponsive
Feb 12 08:30:30 box:apphealthmonitor app health: 19 running / 3 stopped / 0 unresponsive
Feb 12 08:30:40 box:apphealthmonitor app health: 19 running / 3 stopped / 0 unresponsive
Feb 12 08:30:50 box:apphealthmonitor app health: 19 running / 3 stopped / 0 unresponsive
]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/101629https://forum.cloudron.io/post/101629Wed, 12 Feb 2025 09:22:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to server seems to be going to sleep and becomes inaccessible on Wed, 12 Feb 2025 07:18:25 GMT]]>Are you saying the server has gnome/xfce/kde? Maybe you can check if those packages are installed? Indeed, your guess will be correct that the system goes to sleep if the desktop environments have power management enabled. Did you install anything on the server recently?

@avatar1024 said in server seems to be going to sleep and becomes inaccessible:

Feb 11 22:23:20 nestedError: Error: getaddrinfo EAI_AGAIN api.cloudron.io

This is a DNS resolution error. DNS is not working, test with host api.cloudron.io .

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/101621https://forum.cloudron.io/post/101621Wed, 12 Feb 2025 07:18:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to server seems to be going to sleep and becomes inaccessible on Wed, 12 Feb 2025 00:45:51 GMT]]>@avatar1024 oh no, that's sounds very frustrating. I've no clue what you should do but just wanted to express solidarity and hope you manage to work it out ASAP! 🤞 🙏

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/101611https://forum.cloudron.io/post/101611Wed, 12 Feb 2025 00:45:51 GMT