<![CDATA["Platform data" and "Other" disk usage]]>With the new disk usage visualization I can see that "Platform data" takes up a whopping 19GB on a Cloudron instance of mine. "Other" is also hogging. Is that reasonable?

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]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1977/platform-data-and-other-disk-usageRSS for NodeFri, 14 Aug 2026 07:18:06 GMTWed, 30 Oct 2019 12:13:33 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to "Platform data" and "Other" disk usage on Wed, 22 Nov 2023 11:58:04 GMT]]>@foliovision you can also try docker system prune -a --volumes but generally I have never succeeded in making that reclaimable space be less than 2GB in any server using docker (even without Cloudron).

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/77933https://forum.cloudron.io/post/77933Wed, 22 Nov 2023 11:58:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "Platform data" and "Other" disk usage on Wed, 22 Nov 2023 11:13:37 GMT]]>Hi Girish,

We've run into issues with reclaimable space as well. Here's where we stand now.

# docker system df
TYPE            TOTAL     ACTIVE    SIZE      RECLAIMABLE
Images          18        18        15.99GB   4.727GB (29%)
Containers      19        19        95.79kB   0B (0%)
Local Volumes   62        58        623.4MB   3.582kB (0%)
Build Cache     0         0         0B        0B

This is after running docker image prune -a which removed 19 Images (saved 4 GB), 3 Containers, 324 Local Volumes (saved 2.2 GB). We have also already ran We tried docker volume prune and docker system prune too. These only saved about 100 MB each.

How do we reclaim the last 4.727GB of reclaimable space?

Thanks in advance for your good advice, Alec

PS. I've posted on this older thread as it's also about reclaimable space, to avoid too many duplicate threads on the forum.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/77930https://forum.cloudron.io/post/77930Wed, 22 Nov 2023 11:13:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "Platform data" and "Other" disk usage on Wed, 13 May 2020 13:50:45 GMT]]>@girish Thanks, worked!

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/8449https://forum.cloudron.io/post/8449Wed, 13 May 2020 13:50:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "Platform data" and "Other" disk usage on Tue, 12 May 2020 17:27:56 GMT]]>@necrevistonnezr If you go into /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logrotate, do you see 07e4e251-ed90-42ca-9ba3-e015b108f1e6 and c5c137fa-0221-4d42-b418-10e544cebad1 there? If not, go those apps (you can figure this out either by looking at the logs a bit or in the dashboard's URL) and start recovery mode and end recovery mode. This will generate the logrotate configs for them.

Once, the configs are in place, future logs will get rotated. But this does not help the current logs. You can just truncate them like:

truncate -s0 /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/07e4e251-ed90-42ca-9ba3-e015b108f1e6/app.log
]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/8434https://forum.cloudron.io/post/8434Tue, 12 May 2020 17:27:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "Platform data" and "Other" disk usage on Tue, 12 May 2020 08:17:08 GMT]]>https://paste.cloudron.io/upozogutut.sql
For me it adds up to 699 MB

Is there a way to clean up those logs in between?

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/8410https://forum.cloudron.io/post/8410Tue, 12 May 2020 08:17:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "Platform data" and "Other" disk usage on Mon, 11 May 2020 21:35:19 GMT]]>Found out why. If a log file is > 20M at rotation time, then it's never truncated. Looks like this is just how logrotate works.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/8399https://forum.cloudron.io/post/8399Mon, 11 May 2020 21:35:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "Platform data" and "Other" disk usage on Mon, 11 May 2020 20:29:24 GMT]]>mm, OK. I looked into your own installation - https://paste.cloudron.io/eqixarerox.css (~800MB)

logrotate configs are in /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logrotate.d

  • Some apps like 2f004a04-e256-426b-9485-e06a31adc2dd were missing configs. This is because when we added the new configs many releases ago, we didn't go back and re-generate it for all the apps. To fix this, simply enable and disable recovery mode and then the logrotate config will be generated.

  • For turn, the logrotate was not added when we added it in the previous release. I have fixed this now for next release.

  • For all apps/services, we keep up to 2 logs of 10M. This is why most of them are < 20M. So, this is mostly working as expected.

  • For the rest, I see that log files are > 20M. I wonder why... investigating.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/8395https://forum.cloudron.io/post/8395Mon, 11 May 2020 20:29:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "Platform data" and "Other" disk usage on Mon, 11 May 2020 19:46:39 GMT]]>@girish For what it's worth, I ran that command and found the total size was 872 MB. Is that expected? It seems like a lot to me to be nearly a GB in size just for text files. I'd expect that to be more around the 200 MB mark or so, but I'm not sure of the logrotate rules and how much gets logged generally nor how quickly.

I noticed one of the larger log files was around 47 MB on its own, and it looks to be from my Radicale app. It seems to be logging in DEBUG mode, which I presume is not intended? I'm guessing for production systems we'd like to keep logs in a normal INFO mode, right?

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/8392https://forum.cloudron.io/post/8392Mon, 11 May 2020 19:46:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "Platform data" and "Other" disk usage on Mon, 11 May 2020 19:06:02 GMT]]>@yusf Do you know which log is taking up space? Maybe we miss a logrotation rule somewhere. You can find this by du -hcs /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/*

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/8388https://forum.cloudron.io/post/8388Mon, 11 May 2020 19:06:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "Platform data" and "Other" disk usage on Sun, 10 May 2020 10:24:26 GMT]]>@girish said in "Platform data" and "Other" disk usage:

We have a logrotate issue which is not cleaning up logs properly.

I still need to continuously watch these log files not filling up the machine completely. Can you take another look at the log rotation feature?

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/8349https://forum.cloudron.io/post/8349Sun, 10 May 2020 10:24:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "Platform data" and "Other" disk usage on Thu, 12 Dec 2019 16:42:37 GMT]]>@girish thank you.

That worked for docker volume prune. The other command (docker image prune) did not actually clean anything up though, but the output of docker system df stays with 66% reclaimable.

Any further ideas?

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/5132https://forum.cloudron.io/post/5132Thu, 12 Dec 2019 16:42:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "Platform data" and "Other" disk usage on Tue, 10 Dec 2019 00:54:50 GMT]]>The prune commands should be safe to run. Unless there is some Cloudron bug, it shouldn't remove anything.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/5078https://forum.cloudron.io/post/5078Tue, 10 Dec 2019 00:54:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "Platform data" and "Other" disk usage on Fri, 06 Dec 2019 17:10:38 GMT]]>Hi,

I have another question regardiing this. The following is the output of docker system df.

$ docker system df
TYPE                TOTAL               ACTIVE              SIZE                RECLAIMABLE
Images              34                  16                  9.857GB             6.508GB (66%)
Containers          21                  18                  0B                  0B
Local Volumes       160                 36                  5.274GB             3.964GB (75%)
Build Cache         0                   0                   0B                  0B

As you can see, docker claims that a lot of storage is reclaimable.

Is it safe to run docker volume prune and docker image prune?

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/5050https://forum.cloudron.io/post/5050Fri, 06 Dec 2019 17:10:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "Platform data" and "Other" disk usage on Thu, 07 Nov 2019 17:29:54 GMT]]>@nebulon what about just "System" 😉

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/4804https://forum.cloudron.io/post/4804Thu, 07 Nov 2019 17:29:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "Platform data" and "Other" disk usage on Thu, 07 Nov 2019 11:51:18 GMT]]>"Other" might not be the best term in hindsight. Basically it is just the sum of everything else on the system. For example the Linux system/distro data itself, as well as data which is otherwise placed outside of Cloudron known folders, if any.

If anyone has a better term for that, to convey this information, I am happy to adjust it, if we find a good one.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/4801https://forum.cloudron.io/post/4801Thu, 07 Nov 2019 11:51:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "Platform data" and "Other" disk usage on Wed, 06 Nov 2019 20:57:32 GMT]]>I understand, but why does cloudron report Other 82.82 GB?

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/4798https://forum.cloudron.io/post/4798Wed, 06 Nov 2019 20:57:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "Platform data" and "Other" disk usage on Wed, 06 Nov 2019 20:47:10 GMT]]>@Warez The 2.5GB there seems OK. Our docker app images are not disk usage optimized.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/4797https://forum.cloudron.io/post/4797Wed, 06 Nov 2019 20:47:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "Platform data" and "Other" disk usage on Wed, 06 Nov 2019 20:40:26 GMT]]>TYPE TOTAL ACTIVE SIZE RECLAIMABLE
Images 10 9 2.591GB 1.33GB (51%)
Containers 10 9 0B 0B
Local Volumes 22 18 21.79MB 31.76kB (0%)
Build Cache 0 0 0B 0B

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/4796https://forum.cloudron.io/post/4796Wed, 06 Nov 2019 20:40:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "Platform data" and "Other" disk usage on Wed, 06 Nov 2019 20:26:15 GMT]]>@Warez Did you use du -hcs to get docker storage size? Because the du tool does not work correctly with the overlayfs that docker uses. Instead use docker system df output.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/4794https://forum.cloudron.io/post/4794Wed, 06 Nov 2019 20:26:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "Platform data" and "Other" disk usage on Wed, 06 Nov 2019 20:05:44 GMT]]>I have the same problem.

I identified:

47G /var/lib/docker

30G /var/backups

Backups i can understand but Docker folder is kind of big.

Screenshot from 2019-11-06 21.57.25.png

Any ideea?

du -sh /home/yellowtent/platformdata/*

4.0K /home/yellowtent/platformdata/INFRA_VERSION
4.0K /home/yellowtent/platformdata/VERSION
4.0K /home/yellowtent/platformdata/acme
28K /home/yellowtent/platformdata/addons
12K /home/yellowtent/platformdata/backup
24K /home/yellowtent/platformdata/collectd
67M /home/yellowtent/platformdata/graphite
12K /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logrotate.d
344K /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs
511M /home/yellowtent/platformdata/mongodb
132M /home/yellowtent/platformdata/mysql
60K /home/yellowtent/platformdata/nginx
77M /home/yellowtent/platformdata/postgresql
1.9M /home/yellowtent/platformdata/redis
4.0K /home/yellowtent/platformdata/sessions
108K /home/yellowtent/platformdata/update

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/4791https://forum.cloudron.io/post/4791Wed, 06 Nov 2019 20:05:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "Platform data" and "Other" disk usage on Tue, 05 Nov 2019 20:52:39 GMT]]>@d19dotca Please check the size of /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs. We have a logrotate issue which is not cleaning up logs properly. You can delete some of the old files there safely.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/4779https://forum.cloudron.io/post/4779Tue, 05 Nov 2019 20:52:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "Platform data" and "Other" disk usage on Mon, 04 Nov 2019 18:25:49 GMT]]>I just noticed mine at 10.24 GB for "Other". What is that and how do we clear it up (if it's even safe to do so)?

Side note: Would be great if the feature graph would also do the math to show how much remaining space exists so we don't have to do the math ourselves. 😉 I think I'll file that feature request separately later on.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/4767https://forum.cloudron.io/post/4767Mon, 04 Nov 2019 18:25:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "Platform data" and "Other" disk usage on Mon, 04 Nov 2019 10:29:15 GMT]]>@yusf: Can you post your solution? Where is the log file located and what did you do with it (just delete it)? What about the "Other"?

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/4763https://forum.cloudron.io/post/4763Mon, 04 Nov 2019 10:29:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "Platform data" and "Other" disk usage on Thu, 31 Oct 2019 17:50:51 GMT]]>I got helped out by gramakri. It was some 19GB log file taking up space. I will know where to look next time.

Are there other optimizations possible? For instance, outdated docker images?

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/4756https://forum.cloudron.io/post/4756Thu, 31 Oct 2019 17:50:51 GMT