<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[server down: apps not restarting]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">hey,<br />
today I'm experiening a major downtime with nearly all cloudron apps.<br />
trying to restart the apps gives the following error:<br />
An error occurred during the restart app operation: server error: (HTTP code 500) server error - Cannot restart container 9b309fe6-a68b-47d5-86d7-2797aa67ccdd: failed to create OCI runtime console socket: mkdir /tmp/pty465273103: no space left on device: unknown</p>
<p dir="auto">reboot did not change the situation.<br />
most apps are down.<br />
there was NO notification!!</p>
<p dir="auto">other things that do not work is bash-completion, apt, etc.<br />
they all use  /tmp, which seems too small/full.</p>
<p dir="auto">from the sysadmin-site, I did not make any changes to the setup in the last week.</p>
<p dir="auto">CL 5.0.6 runs on a VM 8G RAM, 2 Proc<br />
UBU 18.04</p>
<p dir="auto">TIA<br />
guenter</p>
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he found the real pbl. (out of i-nodes) within minutes.<br />
from there, we could nail down the cause, by following this:<br />
<a href="https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/26598/how-can-i-increase-the-number-of-inodes-in-an-ext4-filesystem" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/26598/how-can-i-increase-the-number-of-inodes-in-an-ext4-filesystem</a></p>
<p dir="auto">TL,DR:<br />
one cannot raise i-nodes after fs creation. normally, a tar from rootfs, reformat the rootfs, and restore would be necessary.<br />
but to find out, who is consuming all the inodes, one can do the following:</p>
<blockquote>
<p dir="auto">try <code>du -s --inodes * 2&gt;/dev/null |sort -g</code>     then cd into the last dir in output and repeat.</p>
<p dir="auto">Full Disclosure: not all OS's support --inodes flag for du command (my Mac OS does not) but many Linux OS's do.</p>
</blockquote>
<p dir="auto">one has to cd into the dir with the most i-nodes, recursively going down the tree and finally find the dir with the biggest i-node consumption.</p>
<p dir="auto">in this case, as girish had mentioned, it was caused by not right configured <code>nullmailer</code>, writing tons of error-msg to <code>/var/spool/nullmailer/failed</code> useing 4.4M i-nodes…<br />
deleting that dir eased the situation ad hoc.<br />
rebooting the server and restart all failed apps (GUI &amp; CLI) fixed it.</p>
<p dir="auto">thanks for all your help</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7058</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7058</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[chymian 0]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2020 06:58:50 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to server down: apps not restarting on Mon, 06 Apr 2020 21:46:38 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">So, the issue here was that there <code>nullmailer</code> installed which was busy creating mails forever (lots and lots of files). Removing that software, fixed the problem.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7052</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7052</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[girish]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2020 21:46:38 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to server down: apps not restarting on Mon, 06 Apr 2020 18:31:03 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/chymian-0" aria-label="Profile: chymian-0">@<bdi>chymian-0</bdi></a> The easiest fix is to just give the rootfs more space. Is this possible?</p>
<p dir="auto">Here's some discussion about it - <a href="https://lwn.net/Articles/724522/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">https://lwn.net/Articles/724522/</a></p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7036</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7036</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[girish]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2020 18:31:03 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to server down: apps not restarting on Mon, 06 Apr 2020 18:23:02 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/chymian-0" aria-label="Profile: chymian-0">@<bdi>chymian-0</bdi></a> From what I can tell tell, there is inode exhaustion in the rootfs. If you do, <code>df -i</code> it tells you that you have run out of inodes. I think this is because this is run on top of btrfs. btrfs is notorious for this. We used to use btrfs on Cloudron 2-3 years ago and gave up because it's just some issue or the other like this. You can to do <code>btrfs balance</code> from outside the cloudron to free up some space, but I am not a btrfs expert.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7035</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7035</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[girish]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2020 18:23:02 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to server down: apps not restarting on Mon, 06 Apr 2020 17:18:33 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/chymian-0" aria-label="Profile: chymian-0">@<bdi>chymian-0</bdi></a> Got it, will look into it shortly.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7032</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7032</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[girish]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2020 17:18:33 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to server down: apps not restarting on Mon, 06 Apr 2020 17:03:11 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/girish" aria-label="Profile: girish">@<bdi>girish</bdi></a><br />
hey, thanks for help.<br />
I already did sent a mail to support with the info, a few hours ago. Didn't you receive that?<br />
it's from an <a href="mailto:...r@gmx.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">...r@gmx.net</a> address.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7031</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7031</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[chymian 0]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2020 17:03:11 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to server down: apps not restarting on Mon, 06 Apr 2020 16:55:46 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/chymian-0" aria-label="Profile: chymian-0">@<bdi>chymian-0</bdi></a> Sure, will be happy to take a look immediately. Are you able to run <code>cloudron-support --enable-ssh</code> and then send a mail to <a href="mailto:support@cloudron.io" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">support@cloudron.io</a> with your domain name/IP ?</p>
<p dir="auto">If that command doesn't work, put our ssh keys in your <code>/root/.ssh/authorized_keys</code> (<a href="https://cloudron.io/documentation/support/#ssh-keys" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">https://cloudron.io/documentation/support/#ssh-keys</a>)</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7027</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7027</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[girish]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2020 16:55:46 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to server down: apps not restarting on Mon, 06 Apr 2020 16:24:20 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/subven" aria-label="Profile: subven">@<bdi>subven</bdi></a><br />
yes, sure <img src="https://forum.cloudron.io/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=74f512c8ff7" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=";)" alt="😉" /><br />
/tmp is not a tempfs, it's on root, and GBs free.<br />
it seems to have to do with cgroups and the space within the containers.<br />
when the system CTs run and one app, then its exhausted.<br />
I tried an older kernel, same.<br />
??</p>
<p dir="auto">thx everybody for trying to help.</p>
<p dir="auto">I think thats a pure cloudron/system/cgroup pbl. as I haven't touched that system.<br />
and never came around that on my various other docker projects/server.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7023</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7023</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[chymian 0]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2020 16:24:20 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to server down: apps not restarting on Mon, 06 Apr 2020 13:11:50 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/chymian-0" aria-label="Profile: chymian-0">@<bdi>chymian-0</bdi></a> said in <a href="/post/6998">server down: apps not restarting</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p dir="auto">/tmp &amp; /dev/pts are are pseudofilesystems and are not managed via fstab.<br />
they are too smale.</p>
</blockquote>
<p dir="auto">And</p>
<blockquote>
<p dir="auto">mkdir /tmp/pty465273103: no space left on device: unknown</p>
</blockquote>
<p dir="auto">Have you checked if /tmp is mounted correctly and is writable? It should appear in df -h even if it is a pseudo-filesystem. Since you provided no informations it's hard to help you. Please note that support time is expensive and Cloudrons support only covers problems that are directly caused by cloudron. In addition, time spent on support cannot be used for development, so it is in our best interest to help you here.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7018</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7018</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[subven]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2020 13:11:50 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to server down: apps not restarting on Mon, 06 Apr 2020 08:49:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">It could also be you are storing backups locally. You can check in the backup tab <a href="http://yourcloudron.com/#/backups" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">yourcloudron.com/#/backups</a>. If so, you will have to delete those somehow. The one line in your error message certainly points to the main culprit: <code>no space left on device</code>. You need to figure out what's using up the space.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7005</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7005</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[scooke]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2020 08:49:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to server down: apps not restarting on Mon, 06 Apr 2020 08:45:39 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">It could be the system has changed since I had a similar problem July 2018, but in my case old images had remained in /boot when they should have been deleted. I suggest not running any command that changes anything because I have no idea if the commands are still relevant in 2020. I had to shut down the cloudron</p>
<pre><code>sudo systemctl stop box
sudo systemctl stop docker
</code></pre>
<p dir="auto">then run this command to see if they had:</p>
<pre><code>sudo dpkg --list 'linux-image*'|awk '{ if ($1=="ii") print $2}'|grep -v `uname -r`
</code></pre>
<p dir="auto">Then, when it was obvious my /boot was stuffed to the gills with prior linux-images, I had to remove old kernels, adjusting the below to the results from above:</p>
<pre><code>sudo rm -rf /boot/*-4.4.0-{98,97,96,93,62}-*
</code></pre>
<p dir="auto">Then, automatically remove unneeded kernels</p>
<pre><code>sudo purge-old-kernels
</code></pre>
<p dir="auto">After that, bring Cloudron back online:</p>
<pre><code>sudo systemctl restart box
sudo systemctl restart docker
sudo systemctl restart cloudron.target
</code></pre>
<p dir="auto">The fact that this occurred in /boot, and not in the main partition, had thrown us for a little while.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7003</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7003</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[scooke]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2020 08:45:39 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to server down: apps not restarting on Mon, 06 Apr 2020 06:48:04 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Have you contacted the developers via their email (support @ cloudron)? They usually get back within hours. It think that's faster than via this discussion forum.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/6999</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/6999</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[necrevistonnezr]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2020 06:48:04 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to server down: apps not restarting on Mon, 06 Apr 2020 04:31:43 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/subven" aria-label="Profile: subven">@<bdi>subven</bdi></a>,<br />
that's all checked. n pbls. there.<br />
/tmp &amp; /dev/pts are are pseudofilesystems and are not managed via fstab.<br />
they are too smale.</p>
<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/girish" aria-label="Profile: girish">@<bdi>girish</bdi></a> can you pls. check on this. services are down for 24h now</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/6998</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/6998</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[chymian 0]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2020 04:31:43 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to server down: apps not restarting on Sun, 05 Apr 2020 18:37:42 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/chymian-0" aria-label="Profile: chymian-0">@<bdi>chymian-0</bdi></a> said in <a href="/post/6981">server down: apps not restarting</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p dir="auto">create OCI runtime console socket: mkdir /tmp/pty465273103: no space left on device: unknown</p>
</blockquote>
<p dir="auto">Since rebooting worked, I assume you have disk space left on the system? Do you have SSH (root) access to the server? Does the cloudron web SSH console works? Seems to be an issue with cgroups to me. Does your server come with any kind of limitation?</p>
<p dir="auto">Please post the output of:</p>
<ul>
<li><code>df -h</code></li>
<li><code>df -i</code></li>
<li><code>cat /proc/cgroups</code></li>
<li><code>docker info; echo; echo;</code></li>
</ul>
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