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What's coming in 5.2



  • Like I've mentioned via email, I'd really appreciate email aliases - I have a couple of domains where I receive an email, so - mario@{domain1.com,domain2.com,domain3.com,..} is essential for my workflow.



  • @mario said in What's coming in 5.2:

    Like I've mentioned via email, I'd really appreciate email aliases - I have a couple of domains where I receive an email, so - mario@{domain1.com,domain2.com,domain3.com,..} is essential for my workflow

    Same here, this would be great and hopefully not too hard to implement. But there are most likely higher priorities in future development work to get done first.


  • App Dev

    Would it be possible to get a measurement of bandwidth used per month per container (in and out)?


  • Staff

    @mario @NCKNE so a single mailbox with aliases? Essentially just like the current alias but across domains.



  • @girish said in What's coming in 5.2:

    @mario @NCKNE so a single mailbox with aliases? Essentially just like the current alias but across domains.

    Yes, I believe that is a common scenario for business implementations.



  • @girish said in What's coming in 5.2:

    @mario @NCKNE so a single mailbox with aliases? Essentially just like the current alias but across domains.

    That's indeed it, and @NCKNE is right - it's a business requirement.


  • App Dev

    On notifications, when Redis runs out of memory, we get just a GUID - that takes time to track down which app that is to increase memory. Any way to tie that back to the deployed app name or URL?


  • Staff


  • App Dev

    Because I just gave a user the "User Manager" role (I thought this would enable a user to manage the users of a certain group): It would be awesome to lock that user-manager to a specific domain/group, so all other users won't be visible to that person.

    Same goes for admin vs. group-admin (admin = global, group admin can only install/manage apps, email and users on the (primary-) groups he's added. This way you can let people manage their own users without interfering with other groups. Does that explanation make sense?


  • Staff

    @msbt Yes, I think so. A couple of people have requested a sort of "group manager"/"group admin" role. We can look into it for the next release. We are hoping to get 5.2 out next week or so.



  • Another +1 for group managers (I've mentioned this before of course 🙂 ). This would relieve a lot of my reservation on granting user manager to certain folks in some organizations!



  • Exactly what @jimcavoli said. 🎉



  • I think Jitsi and/or BigBlueButtom would be great!
    I hope you don't loose the timing for it, because after somebody chooses a platform for its users is difficult to change. If it were ready now I'm sure Cloudron would have many more new users.


  • Staff

    Wanted to give some progress on the release here. Both @nebulon and I are taking a bit of break for Jitsi 🙂 We will revisit once we finish some more enjoyable tasks.

    • Update base image - this is done! Apps are slowly getting updated one by one.

    • Add support for member-only mailing lists - done!
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    • Default to ECC certs from Let's Encrypt - done!
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    • Redis status - Under services, you can now tune redis instance of each app
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    App firewall will not make it this release since the changes are stacking up.


  • Staff

    Volumes/External mounting - we did a couple of iterations of this and neither of them are satisfactory. The feature itself is quite easy to implement but what we found is that other than Emby and Nextcloud most apps don't support scanning random directories for content.

    To go back to why people were trying external storage to start with had to do with Cloudron backups not having flexibility wrt backup policy and persistence. So, we are going to look into fixing that first instead (in this release).



  • @girish Sounds great, well done for the work and really glad to see the mailing list feature!

    As for external storage, understandable choice for a first implementation. In a second time though, even if it only work for Nextcloud and Emby, that could still be a decent step forward too.

    And for Jitsi, sounds like a right headache. Thanks for having tried hard for a while now. Did you get any support from upstream devs?


  • Staff

    @avatar1024 We haven't contacted upstream devs. From what we have seen, most people who try to install the non-debian packages are basically stuck with incomplete docs. One has to just reverse engineer from the deb package source code. It's all open source, so it just takes time to decode.


  • Staff

    Some more updates.

    • Clicking the update button now will always give you an update, if it's available. No more required to ask us to whitelist an update.

    • Encrypted backups - there were security flaws with the current encryption. It's been fixed (more info when we do the actual release). thanks to @mehdi who has patiently worked with us through this.

    • App graphs! Currently, just RAM and Disk. CPU and Network will come later.
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    • System graphs
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    • Backup listing UI for the platform
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    • New backup retention policy (this is same as keep daily/weekly/monthly in borg/restic).
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    • Finally, there is a way import and export the backup configuration easily. You see this in the right of the backups. You get a config file that can then be put in another Cloudron instance for restore or import.

    We hope to get this out next week. Just doing a lot testing now.



  • @girish Loving the graphs! Eager to get 5.2. 🙂



  • @girish One very minor thought. "Cleanup Backups" seems like a mouth-full. Maybe something like "Purge backups" or similar?


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