<![CDATA[Docker dependency]]>I'm interested in hearing opinions about Cloudron's dependency on Docker as specific container system. Depending on the well-being of the Docker company are not without its concerns, I think, if one wants to build the most resilient piece of software. I started to think on this when discovering Podman.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2381/docker-dependencyRSS for NodeSat, 08 Aug 2026 16:35:59 GMTWed, 22 Apr 2020 20:36:37 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Docker dependency on Mon, 04 May 2020 17:27:27 GMT]]>I can attest that it is definitely NOT a good idea to add more Docker images to a CR box outside of CR. CR assumes it has full use of the box, so, anything additional you add can and possibly will break things 🙂

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/8028https://forum.cloudron.io/post/8028Mon, 04 May 2020 17:27:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Docker dependency on Sun, 03 May 2020 20:08:17 GMT]]>@christiaan Hijack confirmed. But to answer your question: yes, Docker is available in Cloudron. In fact, the system is completely built around it. That does not mean that it’s a good idea to run extra containers outside the Cloudron context, however.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7985https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7985Sun, 03 May 2020 20:08:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Docker dependency on Sun, 03 May 2020 19:09:13 GMT]]>At the risk of highjacking this thread, I'm curious about this discussion because I was hoping to install Docker. I need to it to install and run a CAD/BIM server app.

So is Docker it actually available on Cloudron in some fashion?

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7982https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7982Sun, 03 May 2020 19:09:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Docker dependency on Thu, 23 Apr 2020 11:16:19 GMT]]>@nebulon said in Docker dependency:

theoretically possible the way we built Cloudron

This is good enough for me! 🤝

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7680https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7680Thu, 23 Apr 2020 11:16:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Docker dependency on Thu, 23 Apr 2020 08:09:57 GMT]]>Besides the actual docker Cloudron addon, which is rarely used, we tried to keep Docker not heavily exposed to the actual users. For a start it should just be a technical detail only interesting to the app packagers. In theory once Docker goes unmaintained, we could migrate to something else, of course this is a lot of work and just a last resort, but theoretically possible the way we built Cloudron.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7674https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7674Thu, 23 Apr 2020 08:09:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Docker dependency on Thu, 23 Apr 2020 06:36:40 GMT]]>I’m not saying podman is a replacement, it’s just an example for discussion.

I’ve read that Docker have struggled a bit financially in the last year or so. This article is from 2019 so I don’t know how it turned out, but I think it’s a discussion worth having if they’ve had problems raising capital.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7672https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7672Thu, 23 Apr 2020 06:36:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Docker dependency on Wed, 22 Apr 2020 23:25:22 GMT]]>@yusf Podman just isn't baked yet, and docker is far, far more developed than the compitition.
See:
https://www.docker.com/blog/announcing-the-compose-specification/

docker isn't going anywhere

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7665https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7665Wed, 22 Apr 2020 23:25:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Docker dependency on Wed, 22 Apr 2020 21:17:52 GMT]]>Was there any new news on docker, the company? The upstream repo is atleast quite active - https://github.com/moby/moby . I don't have much experience with podman to comment (nor do I know anyone who uses podman).

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7662https://forum.cloudron.io/post/7662Wed, 22 Apr 2020 21:17:52 GMT