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    • ei8fdb
      ei8fdb last edited by

      As I've maybe mentioned before I'm a UX designer and user researcher. I'm a big user of Miro, especially now with the Covid-19s - work I'd be doing with clients standing in front of a wall with sticky notes and pieces of paper I now have t0 do remotely. (mainly planning research/workshops/heavily collaborative work).

      Last year I spent some time looking for alternatives to Miro (mainly Whimsical, and Mural) but didn't find any actually useful and usable alternatives.

      Is anyone aware of a self-hostable, open source alternative?

      Thanks!

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      • marcusquinn
        marcusquinn last edited by

        Adding some convenience links for the post 🙂

        • https://miro.com/
        • https://alternativeto.net/software/miro--formerly-realtimeboard/?license=opensource
        • https://www.getapp.com/collaboration-software/a/realtimeboard/alternatives/?pricingcategories_slug[]=open-source
        • https://www.guidingtech.com/microsoft-whiteboard-alternatives/

        Interesting App - can't spot any obvious alternative though unless one of the Video Conferencing / Screensharing apps has something similar included as a feature.

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        • girish
          girish Staff last edited by

          I haven't used miro, but is https://github.com/lovasoa/whitebophir anywhere close?

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          • ei8fdb
            ei8fdb @marcusquinn last edited by

            @marcusquinn Derp. I should have added some links. 🤦 Thanks.

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            • ei8fdb
              ei8fdb @girish last edited by ei8fdb

              @girish Fundamentally yes, but Miro is more advanced (obviously, it's a massive-ish company).

              It is an infinitely zoomable canvas and web whiteboard, but also:

              • allows collaborative editing, commenting, viewing
              • sharing of boards
              • presenting of boards
              • provide video, chat (which are terrible, so scratch those!)
              • provides a whole series of templates people can use (these are excellent, and - obviously weren't there at the beginning
              • allows exporing/importing of boards
              • presentation mode
              • integrations with lots of tools (in and out)

              This is a good short overview video.

              I've used Framasoft's FramaBoard in the past for these types of activities but I'm afraid it's not as powerful.

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              • marcusquinn
                marcusquinn last edited by marcusquinn

                Maybe interesting related app being made public from wordpress.com:

                • https://wordpress.com/blog/2020/08/06/improve-your-remote-collaboration-with-p2/
                • https://techcrunch.com/2020/08/06/wordpress-com-launches-new-p2-to-take-on-internal-communication-tools/ (maybe open sourced soon)
                • https://wordpress.org/themes/p2/ (old version of it as a theme)
                • https://ma.tt/2009/05/how-p2-changed-automattic/
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                • marcusquinn
                  marcusquinn last edited by

                  Maybe the Cryptpad Whiteboard could be relevant, although certainly Miro is quite a mature and slick App, I can't see any direct FOSS alternatives, it would more likely be a combination of tools to replicate all the features.

                  https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/3069/cryptpad

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                  • kuchengrab
                    kuchengrab last edited by kuchengrab

                    Actually, Excalidraw looks really neat!
                    It doesn't support advanced stuff like Mentions and has only very limited text formatting options, but if it's just about brainstorming some ideas and putting a couple of post-its on a whiteboard, one can get quite far with it. Plus: doesn't need a lengthy introduction as it is super intuitive.
                    Stack: React, Rough.js, TypeScript, Vercel

                    Would love to see this in Cloudron.

                    https://github.com/excalidraw/excalidraw
                    https://excalidraw.com/

                    Edit: Already suggested in the Wishlist.


                    Edit2: Also Spacedeck. Suggested already, you can upvote it here.
                    @jdaviescoates has already caught them all ... 🤓

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                    • jdaviescoates
                      jdaviescoates @kuchengrab last edited by

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                      • kuchengrab
                        kuchengrab @kuchengrab last edited by

                        @jdaviescoates sorry! my bad.

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                        • jdaviescoates
                          jdaviescoates @kuchengrab last edited by jdaviescoates

                          @kuchengrab actually my bad! I posted (and then deleted) a post saying to upvote it, but you'd already done so! 🙂

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                          • ei8fdb
                            ei8fdb @kuchengrab last edited by

                            @kuchengrab This looks really nice design. I really like the sketch fidelity.
                            The functionality is basic, but still very nice.

                            Spacedeck looks nice too, but the low-fidelity of Exaclidraw draws me to it more.

                            I really need to learn how to make packages for Cloudron so I can get some of these apps packaged. 📝

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                            • kuchengrab
                              kuchengrab last edited by

                              Yeah, I mean, I don't like the script font and wish there were a few more font and formatting options, but I understand that they probably want to KISS.

                              True, I also wish I could package something like that, but I just started out with running my own dockers on a VPS.

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                              • robi
                                robi @kuchengrab last edited by

                                @kuchengrab @ei8fdb
                                https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2686/live-stream-on-creating-an-app-for-cloudron
                                https://forum.cloudron.io/post/10712

                                Enjoy

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                                • M
                                  micmc last edited by

                                  imho the best alternative that can be found is draw.io it's amazing and there even is a plugin to install in NextCloud in "New Document".

                                  I've used the app for a while and indeed it's amazing, of course it's open source and I've not investigated deeply but there's apparently already a docker image :
                                  https://github.com/jgraph/docker-drawio

                                  Andy

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