VC mentality? Signal is a non-profit.

No hard feelings. When something is backed by the wealth of a top 100 US fortune then saying that it's a non-profit is like playing the violin to me. I don't doubt that it is a non-profit but it just sounds like branding or and opportunistic decision. Maybe I'm just sceptical. VC and philanthropy go hand in hand but it's a societal model that I don't endorse.

One can of course focus on the tech and its promises. Then Signal clearly stands out compared to other products. But like the point about encryption, I disassociate "best" and "privacy" a little (topic title). I absolutely belive that
no useful Signal data can be retrieved from the AWS and Azure server, but nevertheless every user indirectly funnels money to these two unethical (at minima) corporations.

Once it's sufficiently private (a fundamental right), let's look at the broader picture as well. I see tech is a cultural product and the adjective "best" can be used in a holistic sense.

Just wanted to give a heads up for Threema in that regard.
Move slow and fix things ️

And to distinguish it with Signal: no VC mentality, transparent buisness model and running on their own servers instead of the AWS etc.

VC mentality? Signal is a non-profit.

I also just read that Signal also has Perfect Forward Secrecy which in many ways makes it better than Threema, see e.g. https://www.reddit.com/r/signal/comments/wnfg77/where_are_signal_servers_located_and_how_is_it/

I now tried out Threema and it's perfect: encryption, very reliable, minimal metadata and no data retention. And to distinguish it with Signal: no VC mentality, transparent buisness model and running on their own servers instead of the AWS etc. In other words, it is software as a craft (vs. network effect).

The best in my opinion

P.S.: I think there are parts of Threema which could be self hosted.

I thought I'd brush up my info before posting, and read https://river.com/learn/how-does-a-bitcoin-transaction-work/. So, yeah, I can't confirm how much energy a given mining NODE uses to mine a specific order, but it still looks to me like fearmongering when the costs are talked about, generally.

A single Bitcoin transaction uses more energy than an average U.S. household uses in 2 months!

....

A 10-year old iPhone could process more transactions per second than the entirety of the Bitcoin network it's so insanely slow.

These two statements don't seem to reconcile. If I combine them, then "A 10-year old iPhone uses more energy than several average US households do in 2 months to process more transactions than the entirety of the Bitcoin network". If this were true, that 10-year old iPhone would rack up HUGE electricity bills for whoever has it plugged in at home (at least 2 months x # of transactions).

https://www.messenger-matrix.de/messenger-matrix-en.html

@marcusquinn indeed. I'm now @jdaviescoates.01 on there

sending p0rn.....
NOW!

• https://privacyspreadsheet.com/messaging-apps

Few companies with whom I work do business with the military and don't want to use anything Open Source because for them Open Source sound full of flaws and weaken their defence.

few vs a few

few < a few

A few girls have blonde hair or blue eyes or a beautiful smile.
Few girls have all of these. They are unicorns.

I saw him at the party. A few girls were with him. He must be quite popular.
Few girls like his friend though. For some reason, he lacks charisma.

It is similar with little vs a little

He had little to drink, so he should be OK driving.
I had a little, so he can give me a ride.

I like little spice in my food, so I will have the ordinary mashed potatoes.
You can have the Bombay potatoes, which have a little chile.

Have created a "Cloudron" Group in Session, for both testing, and off-the-record chat (well, as much as all other members have a record). DM me for my Session ID. It's probably safe to post publicly, but no hurry to find out otherwise from haste

There are some lists published of Session Groups. You could mention it and have it listed there.

https://session.directory/
https://lokilocker.com/Mods/Session-Groups/wiki/?action=_pages

yall should also check out Session (getsession.org) it's pretty sweet - a fork of Signal protocol with the backend using the Loki/Oxen network and in the table above, requires zero of the 19 permissions that Signal requires. I personally REALLY enjoy it.

The downsides are obvious here in the usability department. In order to get to chatting with someone, you HAVE to exchange keys. Signal makes that easier cause they generate QR codes but also integrate with your contacts.

One thing to note, however, as a plus to Signal, is they use confidential computing on Azure to hide all the contacts processing, which is a really great use of that particular tech.

Session is great. The developers are nice people and do regular, video updates on progress. The Session team is also involved in development of Lokinet, which is like a low-latency, more secure TOR. You can run services on Lokinet, for example, this imageboard supports it:

https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/9591/jschan-on-cloudron-imageboard-for-our-times

https://twitter.com/marcuswquinn/status/1678017825800089602

The banking system is many many MANY orders of magnitude larger than the whole web 3 ecosystem, let alone bitcoin.

It's not even comparing apples to pears, it comparing a grain of sand to a whole beach.

Now do same figures per transaction

I'm not saying anything is true, if you found it online, there seems to be an increasing chance it is biased. I'm just saying, there's a fact for every occasion now, and the quoting of them usually tells you more about the hopes, belief or fears of the quoter, than they do about the subject matter.

@marcusquinn like what? What are they/ have they replaced. Nothing as far as I'm aware.

A single Bitcoin transaction uses more energy than an average U.S. household uses in 2 months!

I mean, perhaps you're referring to how much banks still invest in fossil fuels? But if you think web3 is going to replace banks any time soon you are wrong

A 10-year old iPhone could process more transactions per second than the entirety of the Bitcoin network it's so insanely slow.

Wow! That is amazing. I had no idea.