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    • mehdi
      mehdi App Dev @JOduMonT last edited by mehdi

      @jodumont I am of course only talking about good end-to-end encryption, like Signal or WhatsApp (yeah, WhatsApp has many flaws, mainly their owner, but they do have good encryption).

      I don't know about Telegram's encryption, I never looked into it. I just know they don't use any by default (which, in itself, is bad)

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      • mehdi
        mehdi App Dev @JOduMonT last edited by

        @jodumont about Olvid, from what I know, yes their calls are also encrypted, but they are only available for paid users.

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        • JOduMonT
          JOduMonT last edited by JOduMonT

          @mehdi said in Best privacy chat apps:

          I don't know about Telegram's encryption, I never looked into it. I just know they don't use any by default (which, in itself, is bad)

          we probably don't talk about the same phase of encryption, you seams focusing on the message (which obviously it is important) and I'm talking about the transfer

          anyway good thing this forum is encrypted by a SSL 😛

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          • mehdi
            mehdi App Dev @JOduMonT last edited by

            @jodumont This table seems to be either outdated severly, or just plain wrong. Whatsapp does use end-to-end encryption, and has been using it for years.

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            • JOduMonT
              JOduMonT @mehdi last edited by

              @mehdi said in Best privacy chat apps:

              This table seems to be either outdated severly

              fair enough 🙂

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              • jdaviescoates
                jdaviescoates last edited by

                I came across a couple of nice chat comparisons recently.

                First of all there is this nice infographic by niboe.info

                compare_chat.png

                Sadly I've been unable to find an English version of the other nice infographic in this accompanying article of theirs in Spanish.

                I also came across this handy table from DivestOS (a privacy focused Android distribution):

                https://divestos.org/index.php?page=messengers

                Both of these make we wish Cloudron had an XMPP server like ejabberd so we could get our friends to try out Conversations and Movim (I mean, both Yunohost and HomeLabsOS have an XMPP server, and they are both fully open source and run by volunteers - whereas Cloudron is the one with a business model and full time paid @staff - and yet they've got XMPP and we don't! 😛 )

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                • JOduMonT
                  JOduMonT @jdaviescoates last edited by

                  maybe me, but personally I make a difference when you are able to generate or add your own key to encrypt versus the "platform" provide you the public and private key

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                  • mehdi
                    mehdi App Dev @JOduMonT last edited by

                    @jodumont The key is always generated on your own device. There is zero reason to allow users to import an external key. If you don't trust the local app to correctly generate a keypair, you have no reason to trust it to correctly perform the encryption. So importing a key brings nothing.

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                    • robi
                      robi @jdaviescoates last edited by

                      @jdaviescoates time to host an event, start packaging and get help finishing it! 🙂

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                      • jdaviescoates
                        jdaviescoates @robi last edited by jdaviescoates

                        @robi I've often thought of learning to code. I loved maths as a kid. But now isn't the time. 🙂

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                        • robi
                          robi @jdaviescoates last edited by

                          @jdaviescoates there's no real coding involved.. it's mostly stitching things together and adjusting configs. You'll have help too.

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