Dashbard UX enhancement suggestions
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@hexbin said in Dashbard UX enhancement suggestions:
Technically correct - but aren't we kinda hard trying to make that invisible?
Ah I see, indeed this is way to sublte here. As such our stylesheet does not configure that, so it appears to be a bad match with the current custom and system style.
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Ideally we'd rarely have to visit troubleshooting tools and start/stop buttons as the app monitor would handle that more intelligently for us.
Until then, making things more obvious and adding additional distinguishing visual elements such as the triangle pointing right and square box for start and stop respectively.
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Regarding the fix for the app item action items, which are currently shown on hover, we have done a few tests with the three dots icon and a dropdown. It didn't make too much sense to us and also it kindof looked strange and not very intuitive.
Now the current version is a bit simplified from this. It will show a single button in the top-right corner as suggested here. This is always shown now for admins. Clicking that will bring up the app configure/info view which has an improved toolbar on the top right, containing all the actions.
This change has the same amount of clicks required as the dropdown now and also works better on mobile/tablet.
You can see the stop/pause action also being more prominent up there now.
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Also the grid item focus is now adjusted to look like, but I am not yet sure if I keep it as such
@hexbin the actual system and browser native focus is still untouched and I think given that we haven't done any visual focus handling, you will see similar issues on other products unless you adjust your system settings for the native style. I also think that not interfering with the native one here is correct, as if I adjust my system for example to have a style with high contrast (this is on linux gnome) then the native focus rendering is also adjusted well, which I think is what we want.
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@nebulon Nice. If it's a button now, rather than a drop-down, that makes more sense to use an icon representing the destination.
Personally, I'd prefer the single-cog icon here and for the Service menus, if you'd consider that?
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@marcusquinn agreed, using the single cog now
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@nebulon Awesome improvements!
given that we haven't done any visual focus handling
Unfortunately it's a very widespread bad habit among web designers to unconsciously style only :hover states. By omitting :focus, accessibility is actively reduced. Not blaming anyone. You might want to check if your CSS files serve this finding.
The defaults are not always a good fallback. Not many people actually know that they could adjust their system (not even many among those who rely on assistive technologies). When we avoid touching the way the defaults do the styling (e. g.
outline) we can still do a lot for accessibility
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Now that we've satisfied some basic power users' needs - mind if I get back to the original motivation (description field, login type)?
At least once a week I have to tell an app-using team member that it's not their fault and to stop blaming themselves (no, you are not "too stupid").
It would be such a blessing to help non-admins help themselves.
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@hexbin said in Dashbard UX enhancement suggestions:
The defaults are not always a good fallback. Not many people actually know that they could adjust their system (not even many about those who rely on assistive technologies). When we avoid touching the way the defaults do the styling (e. g. outline) we can still do a lot for accessibility
so we are on track here, I've added the darker outline, but the native one is still inset of that. I have not restyled this (not visible in the screenshot, as real focus went to the screenshot tool
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@nebulon That looks so much cleaner! Thanks for your hard work!
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@nebulon said in Dashbard UX enhancement suggestions:
You can see the stop/pause action also being more prominent up there now.
It's looking like a great improvement, thanks for the hard work and for taking all our feedback into consideration.
Just two quick questions:
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Is there any intention to add the Restart button too, or is it only a stop button (which I assume then translates to a start button when stopped) for now? I suppose the restart button isn't as necessary now since it's also in the File Viewer area which is generally when we'd need to restart an app anyways after editing a file. Though I still like the idea of sticking to how operating systems UI are done, where the shutdown and restart buttons are next to each other.
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Is there an "are you sure" pop-up when clicking/tapping the shutdown/pause button to avoid miss clicks?
Bonus question: Should the shutdown/pause button perhaps be the "Power-off" icon instead of the "Pause" icon? I guess it could work either way, just thinking the Power Off one may make a little bit more sense at a glance.
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@hexbin wondering if login-type icon might be better in the top-left now to balance the cog top-right?
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@marcusquinn Sounds like a good idea. I'm sure we can trust the wonderful Cloudron team with design decisions (and weighing those against technical feasability).
As long as they can make this happen - nag, nag
