<![CDATA[Jitsi]]>Hi all!

We have managed to get an initial Jitsi package out. It does not yet have LDAP integration, but that will come. Further the STUN and TURN servers are set, but not yet fully working. There is still the port 443 issue for this in certain circumstances. We have to see how far we can get there.

We have published it as unstable for now to gather initial feedback. As always unstable versions might not properly migrate existing data.

Forum section: https://forum.cloudron.io/category/139/jitsi
Docs: https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/jitsi/
App Library: https://www.cloudron.io/store/org.jitsi.cloudronapp.html
Package Repo: https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/jitsi-app

And of course many thanks to @Benoit and https://medias-cite.coop/ for sponsoring the packaging!

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/6473/jitsiRSS for NodeFri, 07 Aug 2026 11:06:25 GMTThu, 10 Feb 2022 18:01:07 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Jitsi on Tue, 28 May 2024 23:36:37 GMT]]>@potemkin_ai Indeed, Jitsi itself, running alone, in its own comfy space, installed per the Jitsi guide does run smooth as silk (albeit with some occasional drops). It is when you get into other implementations that are not Debian/Ubuntu that it seems to have issues. I've tried the OpenSUSE and Docker deployments and eventually always encounter an issue with colibri/websockets.

As for Element Call, they seem really focused on their new Element Starter Suite and Element Server Suite which is a lot like Element Matrix Services (EMS) but self hosted. Element Call is part of some deployments and really sparkles there. What is really exciting is that the Integrations options have really revved up.

I am testing both suites now and can say this is the most complete Element has felt when self hosting and I am not just saying that because you can default your deployment to use Hydrogen instead if you want to cut some bloat. Ha-ha!

Element Server Suite can integrate with everything and the kitchen sink and is apparently the only one who Element Call wants to be friends with. 😛

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/89146https://forum.cloudron.io/post/89146Tue, 28 May 2024 23:36:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Jitsi on Tue, 28 May 2024 11:13:03 GMT]]>Thanks, @aessen. I've been distracted, but now get back on that and have this up and running on a dedicated server - will see how it goes.

Jitsi is a working horse, can't say there are any troubles. Not running it inside Docker - got it running on a dedicated VM without problems; guess I'm now in a position to make it work well from inside the Docker, but can't find any motivation to do so.

My key insides from my short experience with Element Call:

  • it's definitely not production ready - integration features wise, first of all
  • guys basically probably took a look at Jitsi, which is an enhanced version of COTURN to mix things + XMPP server - for auth and signalling; then they probably looked at livekit and Synapse, scratched her heads and asked themselves: why bother with an external behemoth, when our product is a competitor with XMPP (given OMEMO could work as smoothly...)
  • indeed existing Synapse server is a no go, unless you are ready for a mess

But the key problem turned out to be in other place: you can't just add element call URL to a well-known location / DNS and expect it to be catched by Element - it just won't.

Considering recent Element / Matrix reorganization and that the release cycle for Call is on a slow side and the tickets I've raised didn't get much attention, I wouldn't expect Element Call to be a production replacement soon.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/89117https://forum.cloudron.io/post/89117Tue, 28 May 2024 11:13:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Jitsi on Thu, 21 Mar 2024 20:59:52 GMT]]>@potemkin_ai in case you didn’t get a chance to find it (regarding the homeserver caveats):

By default, the app expects you to have a Matrix homeserver (such as Synapse) installed locally and running on port 8008…

Element Call requires a homeserver with registration enabled without any 3pid or token requirements, if you want it to be used by unregistered users…

Therefore, to use a self-hosted homeserver, this is recommended to be a new server where any user account created has not joined any normal rooms anywhere in the Matrix federated network.

It is for this reason that Element Call, while a robust and impressive solution the Matrix ecosystem, isn’t really a replacement (yet) for similar services. That being said, when deployed as part of an integrated Element Matrix solution such as Element Server Suite alongside Element X, it is incredible.

Jitsi Meet VideoBridge is crashing anytime more than two people join on any service that used it. It’s good that Element was working on Element Call before that. @girish and @nebulon, how was Cloudron able to run Jitsi so smoothly before when no other service could? Is that why the Cloudron version remained an older version?

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/85486https://forum.cloudron.io/post/85486Thu, 21 Mar 2024 20:59:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Jitsi on Thu, 18 Jan 2024 07:30:15 GMT]]>@potemkin_ai they're detailed at the link above

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/81326https://forum.cloudron.io/post/81326Thu, 18 Jan 2024 07:30:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Jitsi on Thu, 18 Jan 2024 02:54:44 GMT]]>@robi hope so; and what are the 'homeserver caveats' you mean?

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/81324https://forum.cloudron.io/post/81324Thu, 18 Jan 2024 02:54:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Jitsi on Wed, 17 Jan 2024 23:12:47 GMT]]>@potemkin_ai cool, hopefully you can build it without the homeserver caveats.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/81319https://forum.cloudron.io/post/81319Wed, 17 Jan 2024 23:12:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Jitsi on Wed, 17 Jan 2024 22:26:43 GMT]]>@robi you got to build it first, yep; going to follow that direction soon

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/81317https://forum.cloudron.io/post/81317Wed, 17 Jan 2024 22:26:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Jitsi on Wed, 17 Jan 2024 22:21:48 GMT]]>@potemkin_ai Doesn't seem like it's ready standalone: https://github.com/element-hq/element-call#host-it-yourself

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/81314https://forum.cloudron.io/post/81314Wed, 17 Jan 2024 22:21:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Jitsi on Wed, 17 Jan 2024 22:16:31 GMT]]>What about https://github.com/element-hq/element-call instead?

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/81312https://forum.cloudron.io/post/81312Wed, 17 Jan 2024 22:16:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Jitsi on Wed, 10 Jan 2024 18:16:00 GMT]]>@fbartels Wow they really buried that lead.

After 30m of searching, I found the buried link to the code in their FAQ and it is deployable on Cloudron!

UPDATE: we already have a request for it here.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/80873https://forum.cloudron.io/post/80873Wed, 10 Jan 2024 18:16:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Jitsi on Wed, 10 Jan 2024 11:29:53 GMT]]>@necrevistonnezr said in Jitsi:

Mailbox.org is switching away

One bit of context that is not in the post is that OpenTalk is developed by the same people/company that are operating mailbox.org

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/80843https://forum.cloudron.io/post/80843Wed, 10 Jan 2024 11:29:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Jitsi on Wed, 10 Jan 2024 11:14:52 GMT]]>@necrevistonnezr Mirotalk is also an alternative

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/80842https://forum.cloudron.io/post/80842Wed, 10 Jan 2024 11:14:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Jitsi on Wed, 10 Jan 2024 11:00:53 GMT]]>A little bit off-topic: Mailbox.org is switching away from Jitsi according to their recent newsletter:

We would like to inform you about an important change to our
video conferencing services. From March 1, 2024, we will only offer OpenTalk and discontinue Jitsi.

Jitsi was once introduced as a temporary solution during the pandemic, but in our opinion is no longer fit for the future in terms of user-friendliness, security security and performance.

[...]

Your advantages with OpenTalk
Compared to Jitsi, OpenTalk offers an intuitive, friendly interface and improved voice and image quality. It can be used directly in the browser as usual. (And what will please technicians: It has a modern software architecture and is written in Rust, a programming language
programming language Rust).

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/80841https://forum.cloudron.io/post/80841Wed, 10 Jan 2024 11:00:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Jitsi on Mon, 22 May 2023 11:10:42 GMT]]>Just in case - it seems like there is still an issue on having Jitsi working in NAT-ed environments (https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/7473/no-sound-in-jitsi/42)

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/67009https://forum.cloudron.io/post/67009Mon, 22 May 2023 11:10:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Jitsi on Wed, 16 Feb 2022 16:14:05 GMT]]>this is just great.
thanks all!

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/43519https://forum.cloudron.io/post/43519Wed, 16 Feb 2022 16:14:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Jitsi on Tue, 15 Feb 2022 05:49:58 GMT]]>Some great news to hear!

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/43430https://forum.cloudron.io/post/43430Tue, 15 Feb 2022 05:49:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Jitsi on Fri, 11 Feb 2022 09:38:07 GMT]]>Thank you very much indeed! This is a fantastic application to have on Cloudron.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/43211https://forum.cloudron.io/post/43211Fri, 11 Feb 2022 09:38:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Jitsi on Thu, 10 Feb 2022 23:53:02 GMT]]>I haven't noticed any issues yet. Thanks @staff for all the hard work on this!

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/43199https://forum.cloudron.io/post/43199Thu, 10 Feb 2022 23:53:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Jitsi on Thu, 10 Feb 2022 22:16:54 GMT]]>@nebulon been looking forward to this, thank you everyone!

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/43191https://forum.cloudron.io/post/43191Thu, 10 Feb 2022 22:16:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Jitsi on Thu, 10 Feb 2022 21:53:07 GMT]]>@nebulon said in Jitsi:

We have managed to get an initial Jitsi package out.

great news. i've been looking forward to it. i'm trying it right now.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/43188https://forum.cloudron.io/post/43188Thu, 10 Feb 2022 21:53:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Jitsi on Thu, 10 Feb 2022 19:08:29 GMT]]>We had our first call yesterday in 'unstable' jitsi, went surprisingly well! no glitches, it was just 3 participants though.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/43170https://forum.cloudron.io/post/43170Thu, 10 Feb 2022 19:08:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Jitsi on Thu, 10 Feb 2022 18:43:50 GMT]]>@nebulon brilliant work !
looking forward to trying it out
(am used to the regular hosted and self-hosted-elsewhere versions)

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/43168https://forum.cloudron.io/post/43168Thu, 10 Feb 2022 18:43:50 GMT