<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Reducing backup costs / Backup to pCloud]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I'm spending a small fortune on Backblaze it seems.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Is it possible to backup to a cheaper provider? eg <a href="https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime</a></p>
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<p dir="auto">What solutions / tips do you have to reduce backup costs?</p>
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]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/8647/reducing-backup-costs-backup-to-pcloud</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2026 09:37:54 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/8647.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2023 11:04:43 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Reducing backup costs / Backup to pCloud on Mon, 10 Feb 2025 09:36:24 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/necrevistonnezr" aria-label="Profile: necrevistonnezr">@<bdi>necrevistonnezr</bdi></a> how do you intergrate it in Cloudron for Backups?</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/101515</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/101515</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[lukas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 10 Feb 2025 09:36:24 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Reducing backup costs / Backup to pCloud on Mon, 05 Jun 2023 13:38:30 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">You could try/experiment with using rclone.<br />
create a config for your desired mount, for example google drive.<br />
Mount that via systemd and then point your backups to that location.</p>
<p dir="auto">For example:<br />
<img src="/assets/uploads/files/1685972302530-d39b4f53-a684-4ef5-a73c-d211fed3c4e6-image.png" alt="d39b4f53-a684-4ef5-a73c-d211fed3c4e6-image.png" class=" img-fluid img-markdown" /></p>
<p dir="auto"><img src="/assets/uploads/files/1685972056825-5763fb36-5be4-40f8-89e4-1c69e8a87378-image.png" alt="5763fb36-5be4-40f8-89e4-1c69e8a87378-image.png" class=" img-fluid img-markdown" /></p>
<pre><code>[Unit]
Description=rclone Service Google Drive Mount
Wants=network-online.target
After=network-online.target

[Service]
Type=notify
Environment=RCLONE_CONFIG=/root/.config/rclone/rclone.conf
RestartSec=5
ExecStart=/usr/bin/rclone mount google:cloudron /mnt/google \
# This is for allowing users other than the user running rclone access to the mount
--allow-other \
# Dropbox is a polling remote so this value can be set very high and any changes are detected via polling.
--dir-cache-time 9999h \
# Log file location
--log-file /root/.config/rclone/logs/rclone-google.log \
# Set the log level
--log-level INFO \
# This is setting the file permission on the mount to user and group have the same access and other can read
--umask 002 \
# This sets up the remote control daemon so you can issue rc commands locally
--rc \
# This is the default port it runs on
--rc-addr 127.0.0.1:5574 \
# no-auth is used as no one else uses my server
--rc-no-auth \
# The local disk used for caching
--cache-dir=/cache/google \
# This is used for caching files to local disk for streaming
--vfs-cache-mode full \
# This limits the cache size to the value below
--vfs-cache-max-size 50G \
# Speed up the reading: Use fast (less accurate) fingerprints for change detection
--vfs-fast-fingerprint \
# Wait before uploading
--vfs-write-back 1m \
# This limits the age in the cache if the size is reached and it removes the oldest files first
--vfs-cache-max-age 9999h \
# Disable HTTP2
#--disable-http2 \
# Set the tpslimit
--tpslimit 12 \
# Set the tpslimit-burst
--tpslimit-burst 0
ExecStop=/bin/fusermount3 -uz /mnt/google
ExecStartPost=/usr/bin/rclone rc vfs/refresh recursive=true --url 127.0.0.1:5574 _async=true
Restart=on-failure
User=root
Group=root

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target
# https://github.com/animosity22/homescripts/blob/master/systemd/rclone-drive.service
</code></pre>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/67782</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/67782</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[randyjc]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2023 13:38:30 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Reducing backup costs / Backup to pCloud on Sat, 03 Jun 2023 06:29:01 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/mad_mattho" aria-label="Profile: Mad_Mattho">@<bdi>Mad_Mattho</bdi></a> and other pDrive customers - The Linux version of pDrive creates "a folder in your [user] directory and use(s) that as a mount point for a virtual drive" (<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/pcloud/comments/13rkrh8/linux_cannot_write_into_pcloud_drive/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">https://www.reddit.com/r/pcloud/comments/13rkrh8/linux_cannot_write_into_pcloud_drive/</a>). If you are on a linux-based server/vm, etc., it sounds like this should work well. I don't know if you would need to start over and install pDrive first, or if you could just install it now post-Cloudron-install without messing up Cloudron. If you give it a try let the rest of us know how it went.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/67577</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/67577</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[scooke]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2023 06:29:01 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Reducing backup costs / Backup to pCloud on Fri, 02 Jun 2023 09:52:40 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Enter Shadowdrive, an EU hosted provider with 2TB at € 4.99 / month. Based on Nextcloud. Cheapest privacy minded storage provider I've seen so far.</p>
<p dir="auto"><a href="https://shadow.tech/en-DE/drive" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">https://shadow.tech/en-DE/drive</a></p>
<p dir="auto">"<em>Hosted in Europe, your files are safe from prying eyes, even our own: we do not commercially exploit any data you choose to host, and it is encrypted both in transit and client-side.<br />
Desktop and mobile clients help you keep your files synced automatically. You can also connect with third-party backup software to ensure that you recover what you need.</em>"</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/67538</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/67538</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[necrevistonnezr]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2023 09:52:40 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Reducing backup costs / Backup to pCloud on Sat, 11 Mar 2023 11:15:36 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/mad_mattho" aria-label="Profile: Mad_Mattho">@<bdi>Mad_Mattho</bdi></a> Checkout <a href="http://iDrive.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">iDrive.com</a> e2 or <a href="http://Hetzner.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">Hetzner.com</a> Storage Box, both well tested and liked by many here.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/63045</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/63045</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[marcusquinn]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2023 11:15:36 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Reducing backup costs / Backup to pCloud on Sat, 11 Mar 2023 09:51:05 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/mad_mattho" aria-label="Profile: Mad_Mattho">@<bdi>Mad_Mattho</bdi></a> Cloudron does not have a way to backup to WebDav . Afaict, pcloud has no way to be "s3 compatible" either. So, it's not straightforward to backup to pcloud.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/63035</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/63035</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[girish]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2023 09:51:05 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Reducing backup costs / Backup to pCloud on Sat, 11 Mar 2023 06:26:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/eddowding" aria-label="Profile: eddowding">@<bdi>eddowding</bdi></a> Hi there, I am new to cloudron but have it installed, and want to use webdav to send my cloudron backups to my pcloud account as described in your post  here, I have a european server pcloud account with 3TB available so this should get me going well, I just need some help setting the webdav to pcloud as my backup  choice, can you please post a description of exactly how to do this as I have searched and found no more info on this or using webdav for this purpose in general?<br />
Your help is appreciated!</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/63024</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/63024</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mad_Mattho]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2023 06:26:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Reducing backup costs / Backup to pCloud on Tue, 21 Feb 2023 15:26:53 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Regardless of the provider, the possibility to copy the backup to a webdav share would be very good!</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/62259</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/62259</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[johannesjom]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2023 15:26:53 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Reducing backup costs / Backup to pCloud on Sat, 11 Feb 2023 09:54:47 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/marcusquinn" aria-label="Profile: marcusquinn">@<bdi>marcusquinn</bdi></a> said in <a href="/post/61830">Reducing backup costs / Backup to pCloud</a>:</p>
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<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/jdaviescoates" aria-label="Profile: jdaviescoates">@<bdi>jdaviescoates</bdi></a> I'm using IDrive e2 (S3 compatible) and tarball backups. Seems to be the best speed &amp; cost ratio.</p>
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<p dir="auto">I know, that's why I tagged you, because my old chum <a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/eddowding" aria-label="Profile: eddowding">@<bdi>eddowding</bdi></a> was looking for support in getting that set up <img src="https://forum.cloudron.io/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=090c346130c" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="😉" alt="😉" /></p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/61855</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/61855</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[jdaviescoates]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2023 09:54:47 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Reducing backup costs / Backup to pCloud on Sat, 11 Feb 2023 03:02:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-group plugin-mentions-a" href="/groups/staff" aria-label="Profile: staff">@<bdi>staff</bdi></a><br />
If may be prudent to list a section in the docs specifically for backup providers with referral links to good service providers that are cheap and use renewable power.</p>
<p dir="auto">Just a thought</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/61836</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/61836</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[privsec]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2023 03:02:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Reducing backup costs / Backup to pCloud on Fri, 10 Feb 2023 23:16:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/jdaviescoates" aria-label="Profile: jdaviescoates">@<bdi>jdaviescoates</bdi></a> I'm using IDrive e2 (S3 compatible) and tarball backups. Seems to be the best speed &amp; cost ratio.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/61830</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/61830</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[marcusquinn]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2023 23:16:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Reducing backup costs / Backup to pCloud on Fri, 10 Feb 2023 22:47:03 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/eddowding" aria-label="Profile: eddowding">@<bdi>eddowding</bdi></a> said in <a href="/post/61825">Reducing backup costs / Backup to pCloud</a>:</p>
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<p dir="auto">endpoints</p>
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<p dir="auto">often it's just that you're missing an https:// or something</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/61829</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/61829</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[jdaviescoates]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2023 22:47:03 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Reducing backup costs / Backup to pCloud on Fri, 10 Feb 2023 22:46:03 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/eddowding" aria-label="Profile: eddowding">@<bdi>eddowding</bdi></a> pretty sure <a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/marcusquinn" aria-label="Profile: marcusquinn">@<bdi>marcusquinn</bdi></a> is using it for backups so should be able to help</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/61828</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/61828</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[jdaviescoates]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2023 22:46:03 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Reducing backup costs / Backup to pCloud on Fri, 10 Feb 2023 22:25:58 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/nichu42" aria-label="Profile: nichu42">@<bdi>nichu42</bdi></a> they seem to have sites in the EU too, which is nice - thank you !</p>
<p dir="auto">I'm confused how to configure it, if you have any tips. I'm trying all sorts of combinations of IP / endpoints, access id, secret, username etc to no avail so far.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/61825</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/61825</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[eddowding]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2023 22:25:58 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Reducing backup costs / Backup to pCloud on Fri, 10 Feb 2023 21:31:23 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/eddowding" aria-label="Profile: eddowding">@<bdi>eddowding</bdi></a> I use Scaleway for Cloudron backups and Hetzner storage box for other archives</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/61821</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/61821</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[timconsidine]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2023 21:31:23 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Reducing backup costs / Backup to pCloud on Fri, 10 Feb 2023 20:33:05 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">FWIW I asked pCloud:</p>
<p dir="auto">Unfortunately, we do not support SSH but WebDAV. Here are the settings to access your pCloud account via WebDav protocol:<br />
link: <a href="https://webdav.pcloud.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">https://webdav.pcloud.com</a> (US servers) or <a href="https://ewebdav.pcloud.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">https://ewebdav.pcloud.com</a> (EU servers)</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/61820</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/61820</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[eddowding]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2023 20:33:05 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Reducing backup costs / Backup to pCloud on Fri, 10 Feb 2023 20:27:45 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Also Hetzner Storage Box here, just super cheap and it just works like 95% of the time.<br />
I use SSHFS with the Storage Box.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/61818</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/61818</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[BrutalBirdie]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2023 20:27:45 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Reducing backup costs / Backup to pCloud on Fri, 10 Feb 2023 20:26:13 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/nichu42" aria-label="Profile: nichu42">@<bdi>nichu42</bdi></a> said in <a href="/post/61802">Reducing backup costs / Backup to pCloud</a>:</p>
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<p dir="auto">If your VPS is not in Europe, you can also check out IDrive e2 (<a href="https://www.idrive.com/e2/pricing" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">https://www.idrive.com/e2/pricing</a>). It's an S3 compatible service.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Currently has insanely cheap 90% off prices for the first year, plus EU options. Not powered by renewables though.</p>
<p dir="auto">I use Hetzner Storage Boxes like many others here. Hard to beat value (cheaper than iDrive e2 standard prices) and 100% renewable electricity too.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/61817</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/61817</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[jdaviescoates]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2023 20:26:13 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Reducing backup costs / Backup to pCloud on Fri, 10 Feb 2023 13:41:44 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/nichu42" aria-label="Profile: nichu42">@<bdi>nichu42</bdi></a> said in <a href="/post/61802">Reducing backup costs / Backup to pCloud</a>:</p>
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<p dir="auto">If your VPS is not in Europe, you can also check out IDrive e2 (<a href="https://www.idrive.com/e2/pricing" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">https://www.idrive.com/e2/pricing</a>). It's an S3 compatible service.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Hetzner also has US-based VPS and storage volumes.</p>
<p dir="auto">I use Hetzner as my VPS provider and Backblaze B2 to backup data. As I migrate services to self-hosted options, I'm thinking of using Hetzner for both.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/61807</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.cloudron.io/post/61807</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[GregY]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2023 13:41:44 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Reducing backup costs / Backup to pCloud on Fri, 10 Feb 2023 11:26:14 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/eddowding" aria-label="Profile: eddowding">@<bdi>eddowding</bdi></a><br />
Cloudron gives you plenty of protocols to choose from.<br />
I am backing up to <a href="https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box</a> via SSHFS. Only paying €3.81 currently (for 1 TB), which is more than fair IMO.<br />
If your VPS is not in Europe, you can also check out IDrive e2 (<a href="https://www.idrive.com/e2/pricing" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">https://www.idrive.com/e2/pricing</a>). It's an S3 compatible service.</p>
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