<![CDATA[Experience of first Penpot install by a UX Designer.]]>Every morning, after coffeeing myself sufficiently, the first thing I do is, go check the new apps sections of my Cloudron. This morning I almost spat my coffee out when I saw this:

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Penpot has arrived on Cloudron! Thank you to those who have packaged it. 💓

So, what do I do? Obviously click install as quickly as I possibly could!

Some observations:

  • Today, for some reason, the install process took "longer" than I experienced other app installs.

This is based purely on my perception. It seemed the install got ~ 50% and then slowed. Looking at the app logs as it was installing, the download was proceeding. It did finish installing.

As I said this was my perception, and could have been caused by many things - my Internet speed, load on whatever server I was pulling the image from, not enough coffe, etc.

  • On first click, I got a "Bad gateway" error message saying Penpot was doing some small maintenance on the servers.

This confused me obviously because this wasn't running on Penpot servers, but mine. This could be solved by improving the Penpot "error" message, not Cloudron

This error did worry me as I wasn't sure what had gone wrong. I tried 2 things:

  1. upping the RAM to 4GB, and
  2. restarted the app after RAM increase

(I'm assuming neither of these actions actually fixed anything. I will reduce RAM later on and see what happens.)

When the app came back up, I was presented with the login screen:

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Success! 🎉

It would be nice to understand the cause of the Bad Gateway error, and see if it could be fixed.

  • Once I clicked OpenID I was asked to login with my Cloudron account username/password/2fa token, then to authorise.

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Presumably this authorisation is to allow my user name to use the penpot instance? Unsure. I think this authorisation part could be either explained better, or maybe hidden?

  • Once I confirmed my full name (nice, prefilled, one less thing to do), I was presented with my familiar Penpot workspace.

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So far so good. Thanks to all for finally getting this on Cloudron. 👏 ❤

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/9414/experience-of-first-penpot-install-by-a-ux-designerRSS for NodeTue, 14 Apr 2026 16:15:50 GMTWed, 14 Jun 2023 08:32:01 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Experience of first Penpot install by a UX Designer. on Thu, 15 Jun 2023 03:38:32 GMT]]>@ei8fdb ah, I see why. The app has a nginx of it's own. nginx starts first and before penpot itself. So, Cloudron thinks app is running early (because of nginx running). I guess the healthcheck might need adjusting.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/68349https://forum.cloudron.io/post/68349Thu, 15 Jun 2023 03:38:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Experience of first Penpot install by a UX Designer. on Fri, 16 Jun 2023 16:51:44 GMT]]>@nebulon That seemed to fix it. Thanks! 👍

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/68463https://forum.cloudron.io/post/68463Fri, 16 Jun 2023 16:51:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Experience of first Penpot install by a UX Designer. on Fri, 16 Jun 2023 10:34:01 GMT]]>The latest package has a better healthcheck, waiting for the backend to come alive.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/68429https://forum.cloudron.io/post/68429Fri, 16 Jun 2023 10:34:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Experience of first Penpot install by a UX Designer. on Thu, 15 Jun 2023 09:14:06 GMT]]>@girish said in Experience of first Penpot install by a UX Designer.:

@ei8fdb ah, I see why. The app has a nginx of it's own. nginx starts first and before penpot itself. So, Cloudron thinks app is running early (because of nginx running). I guess the healthcheck might need adjusting.

Ah so it's down to timing? As I said, I was clicking pretty quickly. 🙂

If you let me know when you do that adjustment I'd be happy to test it again.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/68365https://forum.cloudron.io/post/68365Thu, 15 Jun 2023 09:14:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Experience of first Penpot install by a UX Designer. on Thu, 15 Jun 2023 03:38:32 GMT]]>@ei8fdb ah, I see why. The app has a nginx of it's own. nginx starts first and before penpot itself. So, Cloudron thinks app is running early (because of nginx running). I guess the healthcheck might need adjusting.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/68349https://forum.cloudron.io/post/68349Thu, 15 Jun 2023 03:38:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Experience of first Penpot install by a UX Designer. on Wed, 14 Jun 2023 17:51:02 GMT]]>@nebulon I just did a fresh install of a test instance. Here's a log of the ending of the install process: https://pastebin.ei8fdb.org/tuneseyizo.http

The Bad Gateway error did happen. But 2-3 seconds later the error was replaced by the correct login page.

To try and analyse it:

  • In terms of my interactions, I was watching the install process in my dashboard, the instant the UI said "installed", I clicked on the app link, and I got the "Bad Gateway" error.

  • In terms of logging, it happened somewhere around here:

Jun 14 18:23:20 [2023-06-14 17:23:20.970] I app.auth.oidc - 
hint="provider initialized", provider="oidc", method="discover", 
client-id="260ad1a1-a188-4f9d-879e-1f9657ce983c", 
client-secret="AAAAAAAA***************************************************************************************************************************", 
scopes="profile,email,openid", 
auth-uri="https://my.MYSITE.DOMAIN/openid/auth", 
user-uri="https://my.MYSITE.DOMAIN/openid/me", 
token-uri="https://my.MYSITE.DOMAIN/openid/token", 
roles-attr=nil, roles=nil
Jun 14 18:23:20 [2023-06-14 17:23:20.973] I app.metrics - 
action="initialize metrics"
Jun 14 18:23:20 [2023-06-14 17:23:20.984] I app.db - 
hint="initialize connection pool", name="main", 
uri="postgresql://postgresql/db260ad1a1a1884f9d879e1f9657ce983c", 
read-only=false, with-credentials=true, min-size=0, max-size=60

So, in terms of reproducing this error, the best I can suggest is click on the app link the second the installation process finishes.

Does anyone else have the time to try to reproduce my behaviours? Maybe it's simply, wait for a few seconds more.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/68318https://forum.cloudron.io/post/68318Wed, 14 Jun 2023 17:51:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Experience of first Penpot install by a UX Designer. on Wed, 14 Jun 2023 14:46:00 GMT]]>Woah! This looks like Figma..but better! And its self hostable!!! Wow, thanks @staff!

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/68297https://forum.cloudron.io/post/68297Wed, 14 Jun 2023 14:46:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Experience of first Penpot install by a UX Designer. on Wed, 14 Jun 2023 14:29:01 GMT]]>@ei8fdb have you attempted to do a fresh installation also to see if that bad gateway issue can be reproduced on your system?

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/68293https://forum.cloudron.io/post/68293Wed, 14 Jun 2023 14:29:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Experience of first Penpot install by a UX Designer. on Wed, 14 Jun 2023 14:10:53 GMT]]>@ei8fdb Thanks for the write up. Would be great to have some review on penpot itself as well.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/68288https://forum.cloudron.io/post/68288Wed, 14 Jun 2023 14:10:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Experience of first Penpot install by a UX Designer. on Wed, 14 Jun 2023 11:08:37 GMT]]>Strange. My installation process went smoothly and without any problems. To be fair, Continue with OpenID is not self-explanatory.
IMHO we should think more generic. Do you think Continue with Login with Cloudron is a better term?

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/68276https://forum.cloudron.io/post/68276Wed, 14 Jun 2023 11:08:37 GMT