<![CDATA[Volumes error on access but work? kinda?]]>What I am doing right now?
Playing around with Hetzner Storage Boxes SSHFS and Cloudron Volumes.
Wanted to know if I can use a Volume as a Minio "Drive" more like MINIO_VOLUMES

So I create a sub-account yada yada that is all working.
Now I add the Volume in Cloudron. . . no issue.

I press the Open FileManager button and saw some errors popping up, Ignored them. Smart!
Try to create a file:
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500 Object { errno: -13, code: "EACCES", syscall: "chown", path: "/mnt/volumes/5283b6c6e7c0493f97093cd9d7c17b5a/test.txt" }
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Cloudron Internal Error

If you see this, please send a mail with above log to support@cloudron.io
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{
  "name": "ClientError",
  "statusCode": 500,
  "errno": -13,
  "code": "EACCES",
  "syscall": "chown",
  "path": "/mnt/volumes/5283b6c6e7c0493f97093cd9d7c17b5a/test.txt"
}

Strange 🤔

Trying as root in the server.

chown -R root:root /mnt/volumes/5283b6c6e7c0493f97093cd9d7c17b5a
chown: changing ownership of '/mnt/volumes/5283b6c6e7c0493f97093cd9d7c17b5a/test.txt': Permission denied
chown: changing ownership of '/mnt/volumes/5283b6c6e7c0493f97093cd9d7c17b5a': Permission denied

Huh? It created the file but I cant change its permission?

This also results in a Minio startup error since it can not change the permissions.
Odd. Did I miss anything?

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]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/9614/volumes-error-on-access-but-work-kindaRSS for NodeTue, 14 Apr 2026 15:21:44 GMTTue, 11 Jul 2023 19:43:58 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Volumes error on access but work? kinda? on Wed, 12 Jul 2023 20:51:47 GMT]]>@BrutalBirdie said in Volumes error on access but work? kinda?:

Getting the picture?

Yes! Excellent

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/70114https://forum.cloudron.io/post/70114Wed, 12 Jul 2023 20:51:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Volumes error on access but work? kinda? on Wed, 12 Jul 2023 16:29:25 GMT]]>The CIFS version worked btw.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/70090https://forum.cloudron.io/post/70090Wed, 12 Jul 2023 16:29:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Volumes error on access but work? kinda? on Wed, 12 Jul 2023 16:12:57 GMT]]>@jdaviescoates Socialist hosting 😄
The community pays for the server and the storage box.

If someone wants to use part of the storage box for an app or something?
Can't just give the the whole Storage Box Account, they could access data from other members of the community.
With Sub-Accounts each account has only access to his... Account.

You could also think it in a way of:
You buy a 20 TB Storage box and each 1TB is for 1x Sub-Account, 1x Cloudron, 1x App, 1x Customer. yada yada yada

Getting the picture?

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/70086https://forum.cloudron.io/post/70086Wed, 12 Jul 2023 16:12:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Volumes error on access but work? kinda? on Wed, 12 Jul 2023 13:19:11 GMT]]>@BrutalBirdie said in Volumes error on access but work? kinda?:

Ahhhh okay I will try cifs with the sub-account.

Out of interest, why not just no use a sub-account? Or put another way: why use a sub-account? 🙂

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/70070https://forum.cloudron.io/post/70070Wed, 12 Jul 2023 13:19:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Volumes error on access but work? kinda? on Wed, 12 Jul 2023 10:53:17 GMT]]>Ahhhh okay I will try cifs with the sub-account.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/70068https://forum.cloudron.io/post/70068Wed, 12 Jul 2023 10:53:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Volumes error on access but work? kinda? on Wed, 12 Jul 2023 10:02:54 GMT]]>@jdaviescoates it's a concept in hetzner storage box - https://docs.hetzner.com/robot/storage-box/additional-users/

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/70066https://forum.cloudron.io/post/70066Wed, 12 Jul 2023 10:02:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Volumes error on access but work? kinda? on Wed, 12 Jul 2023 08:04:04 GMT]]>@nebulon what exactly does a "subaccount" mean in this context please?

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/70056https://forum.cloudron.io/post/70056Wed, 12 Jul 2023 08:04:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Volumes error on access but work? kinda? on Wed, 12 Jul 2023 07:41:13 GMT]]>using sub-accounts with sshfs and hetzner was showing odd side-effects in the past, as mentioned in https://docs.cloudron.io/backups/#sshfs Although this is referring to backups, same applies to volumes. Best do not use sub-accounts or use cifs instead.

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/70054https://forum.cloudron.io/post/70054Wed, 12 Jul 2023 07:41:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Volumes error on access but work? kinda? on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 19:59:08 GMT]]>Seems like the setting for the mount is not being respected:

mount -l | grep -i '/mnt/volumes/5283b6c6e7c0493f97093cd9d7c17b5a'
REDACTED-sub1@REDACTED-sub1.your-storagebox.de:/home/data on /mnt/volumes/5283b6c6e7c0493f97093cd9d7c17b5a type fuse.sshfs (rw,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other)

It should be uid and gid 0 but is uid=1012 && gid=1013 🤔

]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/70037https://forum.cloudron.io/post/70037Tue, 11 Jul 2023 19:59:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Volumes error on access but work? kinda? on Tue, 11 Jul 2023 19:47:47 GMT]]>This also block using the volume as the main data directory:

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]]>https://forum.cloudron.io/post/70035https://forum.cloudron.io/post/70035Tue, 11 Jul 2023 19:47:47 GMT