so just to update my results here - i tried a hetzner storagebox, but the cifs storage mount was having some stability issues. and it was so painfully slow as to be practically unusable.
so i switched to another option that i've seen mentioned in the forums here, which is to backup to a second cloudron using minio. and i'm happy to report that it's working fine. using an alphavps storage vps it's actually even cheaper, and it's quite convenient to have a further backup if needed.
So just to update... I installed an unstable version of Vikunja as a custom app, because some bugs to do with the Todoist migration were meant to have been resolved. The Todoist importer worked a bit better, but still threw up errors. Apart from that the app is working pretty flawlessly from what I can tell. Would be brilliant to have it added (perhaps v1 would be the right time).
@girish I was thinking potentially to use syncthing with volumes, and then use filestash for web access, sharing etc.
Nextcloud is great, but its a bit of a slow giant that's resource intensive. It tries to do a lot of things and doesn't do the core function of syncing files very efficiently.
@p44 i just followed the one in the cloudron docs (and also the hetzner docs).
cloudron:
//<server>/<remote_folder> /backups_cifs cifs uid=yellowtent,gid=yellowtent,user=<user>,pass=<pass>,iocharset=utf8,x-systemd.automount 0 0
hetzner:
//<username>.your-storagebox.de/backup /mnt/backup-server cifs iocharset=utf8,rw,credentials=/etc/backup-credentials.txt,uid=<system account>,gid=<system group>,file_mode=0660,dir_mode=0770 0 0
I think it might be beneficial to have some stats or tracking mechanism for the server resource usage of users or usergroups in Cloudron, as this would enable non enterprise and multiple user servers to share hardware resources fairly The use case scenario here would be communities or groups of people who want to share, and spread the word on self hosting open source applications.
The biggest variable in my mind, in terms of calculating costs, is the amount of storage a user or usergroup uses. Is there someway to track this, so that a percentage share of storage provisioned can be worked out?
I've read elsewhere that Netdata might be the way to go, to get detailed info on server resource use. Would this work for seeing a Cloudron user's share of mounted NFS storage for instance? Or is this something that is better accomplished from inside specific apps, like say Nextcloud.
Ok, thanks much for the update. Wish I could help with the packaging, but I've got zero skills or experience to contribute to that. Would be amazing to have this on Cloudron at some point, it seems to be the most promising Google Photos alternative.
I recently got Cloudron running on a Netcup VPS with NFS storage mounted (also provided by Netcup). This works great for moving individual app data for most apps off the main server, but for the Jellyfin app the Docker containerization of data seems to stop there being anyway to actually get the media into the app? A shared volume that could be 'seen' by different apps would be ideal, and this would also be great for something like sharing photos between Nextcloud and Lychee. Is this a feature that is going to be rolled out soon? I read elsewhere that something like this was planned for an earlier Cloudron release.
I've been looking for possible work around using symlink or hardlinks, or mouting external storage in Nextcloud, but none of the options seem to really be viable. Rclone with a cloud provider seems to be a popular solution for Jellyfin, but I'm not sure how this would work? Any suggestions on a workaround that wouldn't break how Cloudron's backups and default behaviour works would be greatly appreciated. I have almost no experience with managing a server, so the less tinkering the better!
I've got Vikunja installed as a custom app (would love to see it published to the Cloudron app store as well).
One of the highlighted features is the ability to import from Todoist, but there's no way to do this through the interface. I asked in the Vikunja matrix chatroom, and someone suggested all the details on how to achieve this would be in the config.yml file. I've looked at this file in my install, but can't see any such section or info. Has anyone figured out how to migrate from Todoist?
@girish Thanks for the detailed response on the issues and limitations surrounding shared volumes. I'm basically just looking for anything that is an upgrade on SFTP and could be an easy way to store and access media across apps on Cloudron that support using shared volumes. And if possible to achieve this without disappearing down a trouble shooting rabbithole myself.
I would be happy to try using a volume that is shared between Jellyfin and Syncthing, if that's something that would work? Syncthing seems to have a good reputation for transferring larger files reliably, and has peformed pretty well on a few test I've tried.
I did read about the unreliability of Nextcloud external storage and issue with Lychee and creating it's own database (which I guess makes it a less desirable all purpose photo manager alternative to Google Photos).
Any updates on getting Outline on to Cloudron?
I've been playing around with a hosted version, and have to say Outline seems very intuitive and easy to use, compared with some of the alternatives (on Cloudron and otherwise).
i can confirm that the order of the steps @onlybro describes work to enable video posting. so i guess including the config line by default as @robi suggests, would make it work for everyone?
@onlybro it worked from the web interface initially, but now only from a client app
@onlybro yeah, you need to add that to the config. here's a screenshot for reference - Screenshot_20210410_225929.jpeg
but as i mentioned on the other thread, this doesn't seem to work for me now, in order to create video posts.
@onlybro i had to reinstall the app, and tried to do the same steps. but for some reason i'm not able to post videos now from a browser.
the funny thing is that posting videos from the fedilab app on android works. i guess the app is just not ready for prime time yet?
@onlybro i'm not sure what the reason for it not working for you might be. you could perhaps try restarting the app if you haven't already, increase the ram allowance, and try creating the post from a different browser. the file size of the video could also be a factor.
so just to update, I got the video working by adding the below line to the env.production (turns out it was just a syntax error 
) and then running 'php artisan config:cache' in the terminal -
MEDIA_TYPES=image/jpeg,image/png,image/gif,video/mp4,video/mpeg,video/3gpp,video/quicktime
instagram import still isn't working for me (this might be a deal breaker for people looking to move over). and the way the federation works doesn't seem to allow you to find people and posts on other instances easily yet.
@nebulon i upped the RAM allowance to 1.24 GB, but this was not based on any testing and was just to see if it works.
i like the look of the app, and the fact it is it a federated alternative to instagram. but at the moment, especially without the video posts working, i don't know how much real world use it has. and that's a pity really.
increasing the RAM seems to sort out the errors above (unless it's just a coincidence).
i'm unable to create video posts videos or import from instagram, after adding the below to the config file:
MEDIA_TYPES="image/jpeg,image/png,image/gif,video/mp4"
IMPORT_INSTAGRAM=true
IMPORT_INSTAGRAM_POST_LIMIT=100
IMPORT_INSTAGRAM_SIZE_LIMIT=5000
I'm trying to get Pixelfed working, but there seems to be a few glitches.
I think federation is working, because I'm able to follow:
doodlemania@pixels.thedoodleproject.net and girish@pixelfed.social.
But the Discover page (/discover) is blank and also the following errors are being generated on the failed jobs page -
Anyone have ideas or tips on how to get it to work?
