Rob here (robi is my Croatian nickname and often computer username) for those in other cultures, short for Robert.

As a Strategic Advisor and (Business & Innovation) Catalyst, I'm mostly a full stack janitor

As a leader in several startups, I reserve a keen eye for emerging technologies (hi Cloudron and it's Apps); I have been a speaker, mentor, advisor for Google, NASA, IBM, and many more, finding safe, creative solutions all the way from the mundane to the complex with equal ease, which is one thing that keeps my passion ignited.

Remember WinAmp? Yeah, I was there during the mp3 revolution, in the credits until the recent reshuffle.

I've invented a bunch of stuff, including the first PCIe flash storage device in small form factor (SFF), now you'll recognize it as the M.2 PCIe SSD device for which there is now a slot on every motherboard being made. (didn't make a dime.)

Made core discoveries (read blunders) in physics (magnetism, light, water), mathematics, statistics, AI, ML, medicine, law, etc, which you can ask me about outside this thread.

3 decades ago I got bitten by the sysadmin bug and never left, despite all the C level gigs.

After 15 years, I am still on the board of directors for https://BayLISA.org which is one of the oldest meetups in Silicon Valley. We've had the Cloudron team speak at one of our meetups which should be online on YT.

I play a long running pickup soccer game every Saturday (same folks come out for 8+ years) and tennis 1-2 times a week if possible. Love ping pong and ultimate frisbee too.

If you want to see a small part of my other crazy projects, see https://venture.toldyouso.com

Otherwise a few here have found me on Twitter.

There's more, but that's plenty for now

I was always hosting my own things since the first linux install back in the early 90s. When I came across Sandstorm I thought it was the bees knees, but it was far from pleasant to use with all the rough security and then the project shutdown! (for a while).

I actually called up the founder since I knew of him, and had a chat about it.. he was rearranging his life as he went to work for Cloudflare.

Shortly after I found Cloudron and haven't had to look back at anything else.

I even had @girish give a presentation on the mighty Cloudron at our meetup BayLISA. It was very impressive.

SO in some small way I am responsible for infecting a bunch of BayLISA members with the Cloudron bug and run 3 different Cloudrons myself spanning hundreds of domains now. Go Cloudron.

As I run 50+ apps in my Cloudron, I often have to check on services during troubleshooting, and when loading the System Info (/#/system) page it displays the Services, BUT as soon as I want to click on one, the Disk Usage loads and pushes all the Services down a page. (Bait and scroll?! )

Always makes me wonder why Services doesn't have it's own tab to avoid this problem.

Please fix.

It's very easy to click on the tile opening the app when the intent was to open the configuration page.

Please increase the config clickable area as there is plenty to click the app. If that means making the icons larger, so be it, but their background area should be much larger.

Adding Quay
https://github.com/quay/quay
Project Quay builds, stores, and distributes your container images.

High-level features include:

• Docker Registry Protocol v2
• Docker Manifest Schema v2.1, v2.2
• AppC Image Discovery via on-demand transcoding
• Image Squashing via on-demand transcoding
• Authentication provided by LDAP, Keystone, OIDC, Google, and GitHub
• ACLs, team management, and auditability logs
• Geo-replicated storage provided by local filesystems, S3, GCS, Swift, and Ceph
• Continuous Integration integrated with GitHub, Bitbucket, GitLab, and git
• Security Vulnerability Analysis via Clair
• Swagger-compliant HTTP API

@nebulon
As an alternative then, can you provide a hover text on the disabled upgrade button (turn it yellow from green) that says the app must be started and to go to Console > Start App.

That way the newb user is not left hanging with noplace to go. Close the feedback loop, always!

Since I had to set this up twice recently, I thought I'd jot it down.

The use case is as follows: A home based Cloudron is installed on a dynamic IP and a dynamic DNS, and the IP is often blacklisted or worse.

So how do we get emails out from this Cloudron to it's users and keep the admins informed?

One could sign up for a commercial email service to send email on your behalf.

Or one could ask a friend with another Cloudron to send emails for you! ( make friends, get emails )

Overview, we want emails from cloudron.home to be sent via cloudron.mail who can send emails w/o issue, so we set up the following on the destination:

• a user for cloudron.home on cloudron.mail
• cloudron.home domain on cloudron.mail as manual provider
• enable email for cloudron.home & create mailbox for the user of cloudron.home
• enable masquerading in email settings

On the source set up the following:

• enable email & set the outbound as an external SMTP server.
• use the user & email client port settings created on the destination for auth to the mail server
• set the MX record for cloudron.home to point to cloudron.mail

Now when any mail is sent from cloudron.home, it will log into cloudron.mail and drop its payload, then cloudron.mail picks it up and sends it on to the final destinations as the sender (any app/user@cloudron.home).

Enjoy

Currently the way to roughly clean up some backups we don't want taking up space is to change the retention policy for a while, then come back later and change it back.

It would be nice to have a delete function for individual backups w/o having to shorten the policy.

As Cloudron does automatic security and system updates, it should also clean up unused packages as apt suggests with autoremove

I run several Cloudron systems and keep adding more while building businesses around its features.

Take advantage of my experience.

As a polymath with other superpowers, I make a good generalist on many other fronts.

Contact me now via the chat function in the forum or visit my various profiles.

@marcusquinn it's ok to say you don't know how it works too

@marcusquinn that's nice. do you know what it does to stop bots?

@jdaviescoates Looking at WP Bruiser I can't tell what it does.. there's a lot of marketing around it but it also seems like a lot of cloak and dagger.

It would be nice to know how it works.

@lonk apt-get has been deprecated for a while. So it sounds like you have an old install or some other issue missing the initial updates.

@jdaviescoates it's impressive it's on the list, and poking them on it may raise visibility and chance of a present for the holidays.

Looking at the logs they sent, this is either a spoofed IP or someone found a way to proxy from your IP.

I'm assuming you don't run X11 on your VPS, hence it cannot be a browser doing that from the host OS.

While user agents can be spoofed easily, the one in the logs is an odd choice for blending in, hence likely the actual user agent from the Linux desktop user apparently bouncing through your system.

There are amplification attacks that change the low level packet source address of the payload and hence just make it look like your IP and thousands of others are attacking the one destination. Can't do much there.

Check your WP and Cloudron logs or post them here during the CPU spike to see if it's leaning on spoof traffic or exploited bounce traffic.

That begs the question, is there a self-hosted front end where you specify the backend search engines to use to get results and the frontend displays them for you as a proxy?

https://pathelland.substack.com/p/if-all-you-have-is-a-database-everything

Have been thinking about this off and on, and this man sums it up nicely.

Have any plans to re architect your data?

@jeau Oh I know the people who started it. The ocap features are what really attracted me to it, but once installed it was a big turnoff and disappointment.

After that I found Cloudron and never looked back.

What features do you find most interesting and usable?

This also bring up a few other thoughts, such as going through their app store and seeing what is useful to bring here. (Neos.io?)

Another thought is to make Sandstorm available as a container App within Cloudron.

There is also opportunity to learn from their architecture and implementation and enhance our own. (Borgify)

Some interesting things on their Github too:
https://github.com/sandstorm/

check other repos, sometimes the sync process of one fails and has missing data until the next sync.