Rob here (robi is my Croatian nickname and often computer username) for those in other cultures, short for Robert.

As a Strategic Advisor and (Business & Innovation) Catalyst, I'm mostly a full stack janitor

As a leader in several startups, I reserve a keen eye for emerging technologies (hi Cloudron and it's Apps); I have been a speaker, mentor, advisor for Google, NASA, IBM, and many more, finding safe, creative solutions all the way from the mundane to the complex with equal ease, which is one thing that keeps my passion ignited.

Remember WinAmp? Yeah, I was there during the mp3 revolution, in the credits until the recent reshuffle.

I've invented a bunch of stuff, including the first PCIe flash storage device in small form factor (SFF), now you'll recognize it as the M.2 PCIe SSD device for which there is now a slot on every motherboard being made. (didn't make a dime.)

Made core discoveries (read blunders) in physics (magnetism, light, water), mathematics, statistics, AI, ML, medicine, law, etc, which you can ask me about outside this thread.

3 decades ago I got bitten by the sysadmin bug and never left, despite all the C level gigs.

After 15 years, I am still on the board of directors for https://BayLISA.org which is one of the oldest meetups in Silicon Valley. We've had the Cloudron team speak at one of our meetups which should be online on YT.

I play a long running pickup soccer game every Saturday (same folks come out for 8+ years) and tennis 1-2 times a week if possible. Love ping pong and ultimate frisbee too.

If you want to see a small part of my other crazy projects, see https://venture.toldyouso.com

Otherwise a few here have found me on Twitter.

There's more, but that's plenty for now

What do you all think about having a regular weekly event to package an important App as a group in a live session, maybe even live streamed, where anyone on the call can also contribute their small part, so one person doesn't have to slog through it all by themselves?

Others can watch and learn and ask questions & chit chat.

Any volunteers?

Porter is a Kubernetes powered PaaS that runs in your own cloud provider.

Repository: https://github.com/porter-dev/porter

Porter is an alternative to Heroku that spins up the underlying infrastructure in your own cloud provider. The complexity of the underlying infrastructure is abstracted away from you just like Heroku, but you can fully control the underlying infra when you need to (as your applications scale and "grow out" of the platform).

I was always hosting my own things since the first linux install back in the early 90s. When I came across Sandstorm I thought it was the bees knees, but it was far from pleasant to use with all the rough security and then the project shutdown! (for a while).

I actually called up the founder since I knew of him, and had a chat about it.. he was rearranging his life as he went to work for Cloudflare.

Shortly after I found Cloudron and haven't had to look back at anything else.

I even had @girish give a presentation on the mighty Cloudron at our meetup BayLISA. It was very impressive.

SO in some small way I am responsible for infecting a bunch of BayLISA members with the Cloudron bug and run 3 different Cloudrons myself spanning hundreds of domains now. Go Cloudron.

As I run 50+ apps in my Cloudron, I often have to check on services during troubleshooting, and when loading the System Info (/#/system) page it displays the Services, BUT as soon as I want to click on one, the Disk Usage loads and pushes all the Services down a page. (Bait and scroll?! )

Always makes me wonder why Services doesn't have it's own tab to avoid this problem.

Please fix.

As a very happy birthday present, this came about synergistically, and now we have the worlds first Cloudron App running in a Sysbox container runtime from Nestybox.com

Gratitude to this community and the Nestybox team.
This couldn't happen w/o @marcusquinn & @Rodny-Molina

Marcus provided the Cloudron based development environment which made this super easy and convenient, and Rodny provided the integration muscle and Sysbox expertise.

Here is the first issue filed related to our work:
https://github.com/nestybox/sysbox/issues/151

Feel free to follow along or jump in.

That's all for now

It's very easy to click on the tile opening the app when the intent was to open the configuration page.

Please increase the config clickable area as there is plenty to click the app. If that means making the icons larger, so be it, but their background area should be much larger.

Currently the way to roughly clean up some backups we don't want taking up space is to change the retention policy for a while, then come back later and change it back.

It would be nice to have a delete function for individual backups w/o having to shorten the policy.

Since I had to set this up twice recently, I thought I'd jot it down.

The use case is as follows: A home based Cloudron is installed on a dynamic IP and a dynamic DNS, and the IP is often blacklisted or worse.

So how do we get emails out from this Cloudron to it's users and keep the admins informed?

One could sign up for a commercial email service to send email on your behalf.

Or one could ask a friend with another Cloudron to send emails for you! ( make friends, get emails )

Overview, we want emails from cloudron.home to be sent via cloudron.mail who can send emails w/o issue, so we set up the following on the destination:

• a user for cloudron.home on cloudron.mail
• cloudron.home domain on cloudron.mail as manual provider
• enable email for cloudron.home & create mailbox for the user of cloudron.home
• enable masquerading in email settings

On the source set up the following:

• enable email & set the outbound as an external SMTP server.
• use the user & email client port settings created on the destination for auth to the mail server
• set the MX record for cloudron.home to point to cloudron.mail

Now when any mail is sent from cloudron.home, it will log into cloudron.mail and drop its payload, then cloudron.mail picks it up and sends it on to the final destinations as the sender (any app/user@cloudron.home).

Enjoy

Thank you all for showing your interest.

There is something about a regular cadence that is safe, warm and fuzzy, but that does take commitment and someone to at least host it.

Sometimes a chunk of time frees up and if others are also around, it's nice to hop on and hack on a part live, but from the feedback I am seeing, this is more likely to happen with async participation which is very much like GitHub/GitLab development.

There is still a need for some set "office hacking hours" where folks can come to learn and gain more confidence then go out and contribute a part to an App in packaging progress.

Until then, one such event has been recorded by @fbartels

Next we may need a running set of 3-5 Apps started with the right template(s), so that people actually have someplace to contribute to.

Then what you learn from the live "office hacking hours", you can apply the knowledge of moving config files, linking from the RO filesystem, adding to the Cloudron manifest and so on.

For this to work well, we shouldn't have dibs on doing x and run into not having it done/waiting, but only doing or not, so someone else can. Just do it.

And we shouldn't expect @girish or @nebulon to join as they have their hands full. If they somehow manage to, it's a bonus treat we shall cherish.

We're doing this to help them and ourselves get Apps packaged in a faster pace than any one of us can do on their own.

So who can host "office hacking hours" for 30-60m this year?

Who can set up and maintain a list of 3-5 Apps we desperately need?

• N8n.io
• Zulip?
• Odoo?

Who can get the repos to get us started?

Who can make a video on how to write and do test coverage?

Open Source Social Network (OSSN)
https://www.opensource-socialnetwork.org/

Open Source Social Network (OSSN) is a social networking software written in PHP. It allows you to make a social networking website and helps your members build social relationships, with people who share similar professional or personal interests. It is available in 16 international languages.

https://github.com/opensource-socialnetwork/opensource-socialnetwork/

Since all the VPN threads are locked, here's a fresh one to talk about them.

It would be nice to find a all-in-one solution that supports OpenVPN, Wireguard & Tinc in a nicely wrapped mgmt web UI.

@humptydumpty I noticed they take first level support from India, hence the longer response times for US customers.

@humptydumpty said in DO got NVMe drives:

@marcusquinn The pricing is a bit misleading or so it felt to me. The advertised pricing is for a 3 year term. The server I selected had a $89/yr tag but ended up at $129/yr when I selected a 1 yr payment term. I haven't heard back from them yet. If it's this hard to get help when I'm throwing money at them, imagine what it's like when I need tech support. I'm glad the order got marked as fraud. I dodged a bullet there.

They try to get you to commit to the longer term (3yr) to get that price.
So you can't get a 1 year term for that price. It's correct as it is.. they just don't make it easy to see ;-/

The art of the upsell/longsell.

They could be more transparent about that, but it's technically correct as posted.

@humptydumpty yeah, I've had a few booboo's in my first experience, but learned that you can ask their support to migrate your server to a less busy node and they're happy to do it.

I now run 4 of these.

If price is not an issue, there are other options.

@humptydumpty if you want another option in the US with similar sizing and pricing, take a look at SSD Nodes

@nebulon careful with compiling on rPi's as they can overheat and burn out Having a small heatsink or fan handy helps a lot.

Reminds me of https://confidantmail.org which is more privacy focused.

@girish yes, this also caused a home based Cloudron with a Desktop GUI to lose access to the GUI after the update, which had to be manually repaired.

It should not break existing installs by removing GDM.

Looks like POW is not something spammers do until this variant reaches critical mass. Until then, enjoy!