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Hi all,

I was looking into storage usage of my Cloudron instance and I stumbled across some unusually high storage usage of my backups.. To clarify, my Cloudron server runs:

• a NextCloud instance with about 16GB worth of files (Cloudron says it's 40GB, but I guess there's some footprint for the installation and file versioning etc.)
• a Wordpress instance of a few MBs (Cloudron says 60MB)

Now, as far as I understand backups in rsync start with a snapshot and work incrementally from there. I do not upload/remove too many files from my server so the storage remains fairly constant. Therefore, I'd expect a backup size somewhere not too far above the 40GB.

I checked my backups and they were covering a quite whopping 66GB. Taking a closer look revealed some tar.gz files and my hunch is that they are remnants of my old backup setup into tarballs. My snapshot folder is filled as such:

• /app_<NextCloud-app-ID> (40GB)
• app_<NextCloud-app-ID>.tar.gz (20GB)
• /app_<WordPress-app-ID> (30MB)
• /box
• /box.tar.gz
• app_<unknown-app-ID>.tar.gz (I think this might be an old app I had)

So the tarballs are together over 20GB in size, confirming my hunch (because it would make my backups 46GB in size).

TLDR; Are tarballs saved in the backup/snapshot folder when backups are in rsync? Or can I remove tarballs in my backup/snapshot folder?

@jdaviescoates I use them for my own Cloudron instance! Works like a charm, they even have 18.04 with preinstalled Cloudron images so it was zero effort for setup I run my backups somewhere else though, so not sure about those.

@jdaviescoates My backups go via Scaleway. Was easy to setup because there was a Cloudron preset and guide for it, and it's free up to 75GBs AFAIK not green though..

@jdaviescoates My backups go via Scaleway. Was easy to setup because there was a Cloudron preset and guide for it, and it's free up to 75GBs AFAIK not green though..

@jdaviescoates I use them for my own Cloudron instance! Works like a charm, they even have 18.04 with preinstalled Cloudron images so it was zero effort for setup I run my backups somewhere else though, so not sure about those.

@jdaviescoates NetCup is 100% green https://www.netcup.eu/ueber-netcup/oekostrom.php

Hi all,

I was looking into storage usage of my Cloudron instance and I stumbled across some unusually high storage usage of my backups.. To clarify, my Cloudron server runs:

• a NextCloud instance with about 16GB worth of files (Cloudron says it's 40GB, but I guess there's some footprint for the installation and file versioning etc.)
• a Wordpress instance of a few MBs (Cloudron says 60MB)

Now, as far as I understand backups in rsync start with a snapshot and work incrementally from there. I do not upload/remove too many files from my server so the storage remains fairly constant. Therefore, I'd expect a backup size somewhere not too far above the 40GB.

I checked my backups and they were covering a quite whopping 66GB. Taking a closer look revealed some tar.gz files and my hunch is that they are remnants of my old backup setup into tarballs. My snapshot folder is filled as such:

• /app_<NextCloud-app-ID> (40GB)
• app_<NextCloud-app-ID>.tar.gz (20GB)
• /app_<WordPress-app-ID> (30MB)
• /box
• /box.tar.gz
• app_<unknown-app-ID>.tar.gz (I think this might be an old app I had)

So the tarballs are together over 20GB in size, confirming my hunch (because it would make my backups 46GB in size).

TLDR; Are tarballs saved in the backup/snapshot folder when backups are in rsync? Or can I remove tarballs in my backup/snapshot folder?

I was unaware of the incremental feature in rsync. That will work for me, thank you!

Hi there Cloudronians,

My server works like a charm but there is one feature that I would like to see. Currently, the amount of backups that I have of my server varies grealy, so the amount of storage space that I need on my backup drive varies equally much. I would like to have this more constant so the backup drive is not suddenly completely filled up when there are a couple of updates together with the usual backup schedule.

Would it be an option to limit the amount of backups? Say, maximum of 1 backup related to updates and 1 backup related to regular backup scheduling?

Thank you @nebulon for solving this issue off-forums.

For future reference: problem was caused by the external storage being unmounted after a reboot. Remounting the storage drive (I use a netcup VPS) and then repairing in the Cloudron dashboard solved the problem. Including the mounting in /etc/fstab solved this issue for following updates/reboots.

Hi,

The last two security updates went fine except that my NextCloud instance gave an error both times. The first time I got this fixed by recovering the NextCloud instance to a previous version, however this time this does not seem to work and I cannot get my NextCloud instance to boot again.. The error shows:

EEXIST: file already exists, mkdir '/home/yellowtent/appsdata/<app ID>'

I believe the problem lies in the fact that I moved this instance to a different location using the guide for storage moving.

Any ideas? A search over the internet says that the problem lies in the npm package, but I am hesitant on making significant changes to installed packages..

Hoping to get my server running again soon, thank you for your time.

@fbartels Indeed! I changed the title accordingly.

Looking to install NextCloud Talk to my storage server. An app working similar as Collabora would be cool.

https://www.c-rieger.de/nextcloud-ready-for-talk/
https://help.nextcloud.com/t/nextcloud-talk-black-screens-stun-turn-setup-and-other-failures/33868
https://help.nextcloud.com/t/howto-setup-nextcloud-talk-with-turn-server/30794
https://github.com/nextcloud/spreed