Just curious how others organize their Cloudron "My Apps" dashboard. Do you use the labels feature much or just descriptive app URLs to keep them organized? Do you bother with tags? And if you use tags, what are some examples you do to solve problems?

I currently have about 20 apps deployed across roughly 12 domains, and am not having too much difficulty yet with organization but I can imagine a year or two down the road (if I'm still using Cloudron which I assume I will be for now) I may run into issues keeping everything straight in the Dashboard, so figured I'd see what problems people have run into and what they've done to solve them when it comes to organizing their apps.

Any ETA for when 4.2 will be released? Or is it too early to tell yet?

I was going to write a blog post on this one day but here is a quick summary of what I found in moving roughly 12 WordPress sites to the WordPress app in Cloudron...

1. Use the All-In-One WP Migration plugin (https://wordpress.org/plugins/all-in-one-wp-migration/) to export the site, being sure to check the boxes in advanced section that say "Do not export must-use plugins" (if you don't do this it will overwrite the must-used plugins for LDAP authentication in the Cloudron implementation of WordPress)

2. Setup a new base WordPress site in Cloudron, and add in the same All-In-One WP Migration plugin. Now import the site file that was created in step one above.

3. After it's done importing, restart the WordPress site in Cloudron so that it can re-connect it's must-use plugins (initially I find access is lost to the main LDAP admin user until a restart).

4. Once in using your LDAP admin user, remove any old admin user and replace with the new one if you wish, and clean-up any unnecessary plugins and themes that are there by default.

Not only did I find this to be the quickest method but also the safest in terms of not losing anything at all. When I tried the Cloudron blog method it just seemed like a lot of extra work for me. But maybe that's because most of the sites I've designed aren't simple blogs, so maybe their method is still better for simple blog sites.

Enjoy.

Hello,

I noticed recently (likely a bug I'm guessing as it seems to only started in the latest version) that the Graphs page only seems to show a few apps memory usage. It used to show every app broken out in the chart, but it seems to randomly only show anywheres now from 2-6 or so at a time in my experience over the last week. It seems to be different on reboot of the server. For reference, I have 19 apps that are running on this same (and only) server. So I'd expect to see all of them in that graph/chart.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Possibly related, unsure, but for what it’s worth I actually preferred the old UI for configuring an app. It seems the new way just involves at least one extra tap/click and doesn’t really solve anything, at least not in my own use of the product. Totally get the minimalism approach and I’m generally a fan of that but in this case the UI for configuring an app seems like it went back a step. Just my two cents. Maybe there’s a “meet in the middle” approach that would work better from how it was before to how it is now? It still works for me so that’s the most important part. Haha.

Sorry if this is a newbie question (somewhat new to Cloudron) but how does one install this as a community app? I have the option for unstable apps showing enabled, but I do not see Bitwarden in the list of apps I can install. Am I missing something?

For what it's worth, I have used Rspamd as part of a server I hosted using the Hardware/Mailserver docker containers, and out of the box it was a huge improvement to spam filtering for me. Unfortunately since moving to Cloudron's mail server, I'm getting way more spam going straight to my inbox with no real way of configuring it further either. Would love to see this improved, and Rspamd may be a big piece of the puzzle if my previous experience is anything to go by.

When deleting a mailbox, I get the following message: "After deletion, emails to this mailbox will bounce. Note that the mailbox data is not removed."

How do I completely get rid of all history of that account and it's corresponding data? What I had was email1@example.com while testing and now have settled on email2@example.com, and want to remove email1@example.com from the server while ensuring the catch-all is set to email2@example.com so that emails addressed to the email1@example.com still carry over to email2@example.com. However the way the message is worded, it almost seems like email to email1@example.com will bounce instead of progressing in the form of catch-all to email2@example.com.

Can you please clarify how this works exactly, and if anything further needs to be done to remove the mailbox data itself from email1?

Hello,

A minor feature request (really more an enhancement) but would really help when needing to manually run through something where many mailboxes or mailing lists exist... It'd be great if we had the ability to sort the tables. So for example, we could sort the mailboxes table by Name, Owner, Aliases (although this one would be tricky as it'd only sort on the most alphabetic nature of the aliases listed with the mailbox), etc. Same for mailing lists, where we could sort by Name and List Members (mostly Name is the main one to sort with though).

Or even if an interim enhancement would be to just sort automatically by Name in each list, that'd be helpful. Because right now when I add a new mailing list for example, it just adds it at the bottom and later on it's still there, meaning I cannot see at a glance if a mailing list exists that I may be wanting to double-check, because it's not sorted properly so I then need to use the Find functionality of my browser.

Hopefully the above makes sense.

@d19dotca said in How does the memory management work with regards to "low on resources" message when deploying a new app?:

be improved though to be clarified or with a link to the documentation where a new section would be written about memory management and how it works.

Ah okay, thank you for the clarification. I had just added an edit to my post at the same time as you confirmed it too.

Might I suggest this be improved though to be clarified or with a link to the documentation where a new section would be written about memory management and how it works. I'm in support for my day job so I always go "How can I keep users from needing to contact me", haha, and basically write out as much documentation as needed to prevent calls and stuff. This may make it easier for users going forward too as you have more onboard to Cloudron.

Hi there,

I stumbled into a defect in Cloudron, it appears. I had a mail list / alias created on a domain in Cloudron and I deleted them a bit ago because we were turning them into actual mailboxes.

The mail lists no longer exist now since they were deleted by me a little earlier, however In the Event Log page, I see that it thinks I added them. Screenshot attached.

This should be reproducible but if not then please let me know and I can give you access to review my server if needed.

Thank you in advance.

Dustin.

@girish Just wanted to say that this resolved the issue. Thank you! So to clarify, this was not a Cloudron issue but a simple DNS issue for the SPF records.

@girish Ah okay, I think that makes sense. So ultimately it seems this is due to my SPF records, where I need to just allow a few other domains that my clients use so that it isn’t seen as spoofed when it arrives at my server. That makes sense to me. I’ll try to fix this up later tonight or tomorrow and see if it helps. Will report back. Thanks again for all the help.

@girish This is confirmed in 4.3.2, however I think this was actually reported to me many months ago when I started using Cloudron and I just never got around to validating it or fixing it until it was brought up again recently. So I’m not certain if it has to do with the recent changes made for aliases.

Hello,

I believe this may be an expected error due to some setting somewhere that is likely trying to prevent a loop, but it's not working as expected in my case.

I can reproduce the issue easily. Here is how:

1. Setup an icloud.com email account, for example.

2. Setup new external email account to forward to an email on a domain where the domain email is hosted on the Cloudron server (i.e. test@icloud.com account set to forward incoming mail to dustin@example.com where example.com is hosted on Cloudron server)

3. Send email from the domain hosted on Cloudron server to external email account

4. See failure message of "Mail from domain '<example.com>' is not allowed from your host"

This is unfortunately causing issues, because I have two new clients which are wanting to basically forward all of their emails from previous domain to new domain where only the new domain is hosted and controlled on Cloudron server, and it works for most incoming mail just fine but email sent from colleagues on same domain who send to old domain causes this issue to happen and so messages fail to deliver in that use-case.

Hopefully the above makes sense. If there's anything I can do to clarify, please let me know. Is this a setting I need to set somewhere, or is this something that should be improved for future versions to be a tad less aggressive in what I assume is set to prevent loops from domain to domain? Any help would be greatly appreciated as this is causing issues. I have not encountered this before in previous mail products to my knowledge, although I can't say I've necessarily had this use-case either.

Hello,

I noticed recently (likely a bug I'm guessing as it seems to only started in the latest version) that the Graphs page only seems to show a few apps memory usage. It used to show every app broken out in the chart, but it seems to randomly only show anywheres now from 2-6 or so at a time in my experience over the last week. It seems to be different on reboot of the server. For reference, I have 19 apps that are running on this same (and only) server. So I'd expect to see all of them in that graph/chart.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Hello,

It seems that the new graph for disks is great, I definitely think it's a huge improvement over the previous versions. However, I'd love to see the ability to quickly know how much space is available on the disk. The way it is right now, I have to do the manual math to determine how much is left. While I can easily SSH to it and find out too, sometimes I want to keep an eye on it on the road and it isn't as easy to SSH to the box rather than just login to Cloudron. If I can hover over every other colour / section in that graph and know exactly how much it takes up, I should be able to use that same feature to find out how much is available too.

Just a thought anyways. Thanks in advance!

Dustin.

I just noticed mine at 10.24 GB for "Other". What is that and how do we clear it up (if it's even safe to do so)?

Side note: Would be great if the feature graph would also do the math to show how much remaining space exists so we don't have to do the math ourselves. I think I'll file that feature request separately later on.

@nebulon I would suggest it should be done according to server local time, but either will work. Basically I just want a way to see the logs in a way that makes sense timeline-wise when I need to look for errors that happen at 5 PM Pacific Time for example, want to make sure I'm not going to waste any time by messing up a manual time conversion.

How does one change the timezone so it's easier to view the logs? It would be a huge help in removing the task of converting the time every time I want to look at a certain time in the logs for an event. The logs are in UTC. I saw the documentation here (https://cloudron.io/documentation/settings/#timezone) and tried to run the command but nothing shows in the output, no error, nothing. It's as if functionality here doesn't exist anymore. Any ideas?

All I want to achieve is reading the system logs and email logs in my time zone rather than UTC (which is what it appears to be - example, it's 8:13 PM Pacific Time on Oct 27, but the logs show the next day (Oct 28) at 3:13 AM.

If this isn't currently possible, it'd be great to have this feature in the product as a setting.