Joining this community and finding so much collaboration, I wonder if, when all the craziness settles, would people be interested in a meet-up?

I've always wanted to visit Berlin, and as much for a social gathering as geek-talk it could be something fun to work towards?

Not expecting some kind of big-effort conference but perhaps getting people together would be good for sharing ideas, getting to know the people behind the handles, and networking to see what else we might do with all this collective experience and enthusiasm.

Fun for 2021 anyone?

"Framadate is an online service for planning an appointment or making a decision quickly and easily. No registration is required.

Here is how it works:

1. Create a poll
2. Define dates or subjects to choose from
3. Send the poll link to your friends or colleagues
4. Discuss and make a decision"

• https://framadate.org/
• https://framagit.org/framasoft/framadate/framadate
• https://alternativeto.net/software/framadate/reviews/

Looks OK, Rallly is the best alternative contender I've found: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/3279/rallly-alternative-to-doodle

I just messages someone about the Cloudron forum and liked my quote on it too much not to share:

"One of the most positive and proactive communities I've joined. It's like a System Admin's therapy group "

Hey, big fan of what you're doing here!

Is anyone interested in sponsored App creation?

As a business, we can budget for this as a reasonable expense and happy to contribute to both the creator and the community with helping fund these things.

I've been studying and thinking a lot about Cloudron use-cases.

Something that bugs me is how the Microsoft/Apple/Google expectations for schools and children is very exclusive for low-income parents.

I can see that a lot of users here are also hosting and sharing with family.

I wonder if you'd consider a Family/Educational licence tier?

Maybe something like €5/m, given that there's still the VPS and domain to pay for.

I'm thinking it could be full-function, except being limited to just one domain.

I just know parents that don't have landline internet or premium services because feeding the family comes first but then they are expected to pay for expensive software and operating systems for their children not to be excluded from learning technology.

You might have to assess how many users that might already include that might expect to change to this tier.

I suppose it could have an additional approval process for the domain being a personal family domain and not a commercial organisation.

It's your business, so your prerogative, I just wanted to note the thought, not as a campaign against your model but just as a consideration alongside all the many other things you consider.

I'm thinking knowing this can help build the community and customers, that ultimately invest in a platform we all seem to enjoy. Likes & reviews on these places could help.

I'll start, quite an easy one and common I'm sure: https://alternativeto.net/software/cloudron/

Previously tried Cloudways, Runcloud, D2C.io, all pretty good - but Cloudron just spoke to me for the low entry point for personal use, large variety of apps we already use and were setup with more complex K8S and multi-server/provider setups.

Just made complete sense to consolidate a lot of that and optimise for single-server setups with a more accessible admin interface that didn't require high-level dev-ops in-house for the more common needs of any open-source-first and privacy-conscious people or team.

I try to @mention Cloudron regularly on Twitter too on comments on other large open source account tweets for a bit more interest from those likely to find the same satisfying time-saving I'm here for.

@JOduMonT I think the world has change now there's more value in data than people released but capitalism knows and is both; competing to acquire, and exploiting, in ways beyond most people's imaginations - until they find election campaigning shenanigans but don't know what to do about it.

So necessary to trust in services; yes.

Trust them with your valuable and private data?

When Google is reading your shopping email confirmations and Facebook is reading everything with a "Like" script, I think it's a responsibility to have parts of your data world not visible to the marketing world.

Privacy, encryption and permissions should be as essential in schooling for the Technology Revolution as literacy was for The Renaissance.

So - data privacy politics for 6.1 anyone?

"From metrics to insight
Power your metrics and alerting with a leading
open-source monitoring solution."

https://prometheus.io
https://github.com/prometheus

Who needs Twitter, when we have the Cloudron forum to follow each day

The absence of 2FA on the LDAP login Apps makes me nervous for GDPR and typical security needs nowadays.

I don't know that anyone's ever had a break-in yet, and fail2ban is a good start but expectations for 2FA are increasing.

I wonder if a global solution would be for all Cloudron packaged apps to use a Cloudron login screen with 2FA instead of the app's native logins?

Realising this is development overhead in packaging, open to discussion and alternative suggestions. Hoping this idea is more evolution than revolution.

The more we use any data-silo, the potentially more valuable or attractive it becomes for unscrupulous targeting.

Thoughts?

@marcusquinn Nothing to do with 6.0 but since webmail distracted, I think EspoCRM is worth a mention as a webmail client, which I'm intending to give a whirl soon. Don't know how performant the search will be in that but will share feedback as I do.

• https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2020/11/vivaldi-browser-integrated-email-client

Since webmail gets discussed a lot, I thought this might be of interest.

Description

TiddlyRoam is your open source external brain.

TiddlyRoam allows you to quickly create your own wiki. You can add fragments of thoughts and findings whenever they come to you. TiddlyRoam will link them and help you spot the patterns.

The project aims to provide a free and open source alternative to the popular Roam.

Features

TiddlyRoam is a TiddlyWiki with bi-directional links and graph maps.

Bi-directional links

This means when you are on page 'Example Page', you can see not just all the pages that 'Example Page' links to, but also all pages that link to it. This leads to what Roam calls 'networked thought'. It really is something that you need to experience to appreciate.

Graph maps

This helps you visualise all the pages you have made and how they link together.

Links

• https://tiddlyroam.org/
• https://github.com/joekroese/tiddlyroam
• https://alternativeto.net/software/tiddlyroam/
• https://citizense.org/wiki

Comments

If I'm not mistaken, this whole "app" is a single html file. If so, it might make the easiest app to package on here

I can see a use for this as a quick network diagramming tool too. Provide clients with an instance on their cloudron, populated with nodes for all the things in their technology stack, and what is where.

bonus points for a column or badge to show users with 2FA enabled.

Bumping this one again, as it would be a massive time-saver for me managing 40+ users, and I feel a fitting feature addition to a whole number milestone that I don't think should be too difficult to sneak in?

Very nice, looks like a better alternative to this that I'm seeing used often for Twitter community groups: https://www.mightynetworks.com/

@nebulon curious, does that apply to Mail Apps that use the junk folder path instead?

@robi I truly don't care how it works. I care about how things work that no-one else has solved

@robi I know we don't have a bot problem

Quick look at the reports on one website would suggest so:

@robi We use WP Bruiser with a bunch of add-on licences, generally we check everything for performance and code quality before committing to a choice, so it was a while back now but I don't recall any issues since.