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@charlesnw yes, the OP is a recommendation to add this as a health check notification. I don't think it would be practical to try and automate the setup, when a simple notification to advise it is missing and needs the user to setup with their hosting would save from a lot of bounced mail head-scratching.

I solved this for myself through accidental discovery.

There's no greater crime than wasting someone's time, and any user not knowing this is needed could lose unlimited amounts of time not knowing this is the problem.

Basic need.

Basic solution.

No reason to debate if this is a good idea.

Just persuade that it would be a respectful thing to implement.

As I say, I'm alright.

I'm giving time to this thread to help save others from lost time from not knowing this is their issue.

@andreasdueren Nice work! Been getting decent things from augmentcode.com if that's any help.

@jordanurbs It's on Coolify, so can't be impossible.

@scooke No wall head-banking here. I solved the problem. I was just sharing the solution here for others, and suggesting a notification could also help save others from the same issue.

Maybe there's some misunderstanding, but I don't need to move servers — and "easy" is relative, since I have a lot of apps and data moving around the clock, so it's no trivial to migrate without data loss during the migration, and my time is too precious to lose it to migrations that I don't need to, when there's no problem here that would need any migration.

Open-source isn't completely free, either. You still need to host it somewhere.

@andreasdueren Quickfile is "free" for most lower transaction needs, which covers most small businesses, and extremely cheap compared to Quickbooks/Xero/Freshbooks if you need higher volume usage.

Of course, you know I'm an open-source fan, and I know this isn't open-source.

I'm just saying it is a free option, and it is very cheap if you do need the paid features.

Because they email your data as a zip regularly, too, your data is a bit safer from reliance on a SaaS.

It's just an option I think people will benefit from knowing in comparison, and free to try indefinitely.

I'm not selling it. Just sharing experience, since open-source is wonderful, but sometimes just doesn't offer what we need, so this is something that might be a next-best option to help out in the meantime.

@avatar1024 It's SaaS, so not open-source, but you can do a LOT indefinitely with the free tier, and it is very good, in my opinion, and easy to share access with accountants.

I WISH there was something as good open-source, but never found anything as good, so I just stick with this.

Maybe Odoo is another option for you, but I was just throwing Quickfile in there as an option for you to compare in your research.

@avatar1024 although not self-hosted, quickfile.co.uk is brilliant, and emails you backups of your data frequently. Although UK-centric, can work for any country, currency, crypto.

@scooke Yet we live in a world where what we want or think matters less than what Google & Microsoft (and Meta) will allow us to do. Which in this case, is send email to "their" "users" (addicts).

While you wait, I believe Hetzner has a disk image with this on it.

@Stefan Yes, everything works. Just install it on your Cloudron instance.

Seemed to install with a 1MB memory limit for me?

I think should be 1GB.

@girish AMAZING

@Stefan EspoCRM probably your best bet, you can configure it to do anything you need.

@joseph Yup, agreed.

I've been having issues with email deliverability to Google & Microsoft servers.

It seems that as well as now needing a PTR record for the ip6 on the host, we also need AAAA records for the subdomain (mail. in my case), to point to that same ip6 address (any DNS proxying disabled, too).

I only just learned of the ip6 option on the Network settings page. Perhaps there should be a warning when that's not set?

Probably something Cloudron DNS setup should be able to check and automate? @girish @nebulon

@marylou In the meantime, maybe better options with a WordPress plugin?

• https://www.myeventon.com/

• https://nextcloud.com/assistant/

Just wondering if anyone running Local AI with Cloudron Nextcloud?

Or connected to AI services?

Still think this would be a high-value app. Latest updates are great. Solid UX. Encrypted. Decentralised. What's not to like?

Seems a bit mean that the open-source version doesn't allow for more than one Admin user when you can just share the Owner login credentials with other Admins to do the sensible things that Admins need to do.

Be interested if anyone finds any other workaround for this deliberate limitation.