@will Anton, the developer, also has a VOIP project - "VoIP ID is a Free and Open Source Software to build a hosted VoIP server or hosted IPPBX service. The project continuously powers Telepon Rakyat (http://teleponrakyat.id) Indonesia cloud VoIP service server."

Hi:

No need for a separate Kopano account (despite what the login says... it is misleading!)!

Meet enables Cloudron users to talk with other Cloudron users and guests invited by them. Log-in as a Cloudron user with the Cloudron credentials.

Cheers!

Nextcloud Enterprise estimates that a 4-core/ 8GB RAM High-Performance Backend server (i.e. Janus SFU (open source) + Signalling Server (now, open source) + NATS messaging server (open source) + CoTURN server + Nginx + Apache) will work with "at least 150 concurrent users"!

Wow!!! Really worth packaging this as a separate app for Cloudron!

Shouldn't packaging this get precedence over packaging Jitsi... given that almost every Cloudron subscriber would be using Nextcloud?

The folks at Pipe are rolling out a series of very interesting WebRTC experiences for the post-Covid world. See the demos of bookclub, two and podcall at their Github.

Their compelling rationale for these smart, open source apps is explained here from 18:40 onwards.

Given Cloudron's LDAP + TURN, these would make excellent, fun experiences for all Cloudron users...and their guests.

Should these smart experiences be integrated into Cloudron itself?

Any views?

Hi @fbartels,

Just had my first few one-on-one video calls with registered users and guests... Iridium browser at my end and Chrome at the other end. Worked flawlessly...even with 4G at my end. Excellent user experience at both ends. Thanks for bringing Kopano Meet to Cloudron!

@girish Your new "UPDATE" button is in an "inviting green" color... asking to be pushed.

What if it was switched to a "scarry red" with a scary message like "You sure you cannot wait for a few days for the devs to push you a nice, stable release of this app as an autoupdate??? By proceeding, you risk ruining your hitherto trouble-free app updates experience on Cloudron!!!"

Website: https://linphone.org

Docker is here: https://github.com/BelledonneCommunications/flexisip/blob/master/docker/Dockerfile

Enables e2e encrypted voice call and conferencing/ video conferencing/ chat messaging/ files exchange. Meaningful add-on to the existing Cloudron STUN/TURN + upcoming JitsiMeet. Issue your own domain-specific SIP addresses. Excellent apps across all platforms.

A "Flexisip Server Build and Install via Docker" guide that is too complex for me!

@nebulon Got the credentials. Thanks!

Re: Asterisk PBX - Open Source VOIP IP-PBX Server

https://github.com/tiredofit/docker-freepbx

This will build a container for FreePBX - A Voice over IP Manager for Asterisk. Upon starting this image it will give you a turn-key PBX system for SIP calling.

FreePBX is the most widely-used open source IP PBX in the world. An intuitive graphical user interface makes taking advantage of the power of Asterisk much easier to deploy and use.

With remote-working + social distancing likely through the next 18-24 months, this can be used to a) enable dial-in audio-only participation in upcoming Cloudron Jitsi install, and b) host large HD-quality audio conferences.

While backing-up my new Cloudron on Scaleway yesterday, I really enjoyed the ease of their passwordless login experience delivered via "Magiclinks" in email on my mobile.

If this experience were possible on Cloudron - delivered over the email accounts set-up on Cloudron - I am sure that the end-users of the Cloudron web-apps would equally delighted!

Any thoughts?

Best regards,

Nextcloud Enterprise estimates that a 4-core/ 8GB RAM High-Performance Backend server (i.e. Janus SFU (open source) + Signalling Server (now, open source) + NATS messaging server (open source) + CoTURN server + Nginx + Apache) will work with "at least 150 concurrent users"!

Wow!!! Really worth packaging this as a separate app for Cloudron!

Shouldn't packaging this get precedence over packaging Jitsi... given that almost every Cloudron subscriber would be using Nextcloud?

@girish Your new "UPDATE" button is in an "inviting green" color... asking to be pushed.

What if it was switched to a "scarry red" with a scary message like "You sure you cannot wait for a few days for the devs to push you a nice, stable release of this app as an autoupdate??? By proceeding, you risk ruining your hitherto trouble-free app updates experience on Cloudron!!!"

Hi:

I faced an issue while trying to use the Cloudron LDAP with a fresh install of Nextcloud 19.

If "access control" is either set to "all Cloudron users", or to a specific "Cloudron group" or to a specific "Cloudron user" while installing Nextcloud 19, the list of relevant Cloudron users keeps on being added repeatedly - roughly once every second when seen under the "Everyone" tab in the "Users" section on Nextcloud.

Since my fresh install was only for demo purposes, I have solved my immediate problem by delegating "access control" to Nextcloud.

I am reporting this odd behaviour so that the Cloudron-Nextcloud LDAP settings can be fixed, if required.

@vova I had a similar problem about 20 hours ago; 10 of my 13 apps were down.


I got similar messages for Redis, MySQL and Postgres... couldn't recover from backups...the buttons froze. Reboot did not work.

I am hosted on Hetzner; I went to the cloud console and did a "soft" server shutdown... followed by a "hard" shutdown...and then a Restart of the server.

In 5 minutes, 10 of the 13 apps had recovered gracefully. The remaining three should "error", so I reinstalled them from last backup (and lost some 18 hours of data!).

Hope this helps.

@will Anton, the developer, also has a VOIP project - "VoIP ID is a Free and Open Source Software to build a hosted VoIP server or hosted IPPBX service. The project continuously powers Telepon Rakyat (http://teleponrakyat.id) Indonesia cloud VoIP service server."

The tech here is from Jelastic.

@girish I have set JitsiMeet up to scale both vertically and horizontally; the search starts from tomorrow to find enough users to load it and actually make it scale!!! But I know people who have started with a similar small instance of Jisti and scaled it vertically - on demand - to 40+ users with great success. No need to start with a 4CPU/32GB RAM VPS to achieve this.

And here is another business using the same underlying Jelastic tech to offer Jitsi and BigBlueButton meetings - of varying sizes - by the hour! It follows logically!

There is a large overlap between the important Cloudron apps and their "easy-to-install, autoscaling" apps: Nextcloud, Gitlab, Mattermost, Jitsi, BigBlueButton, Redmine, WP, Ghost, etc

From these two screenshots, its clear they clearly scale WP very well:

@mehdi said in Is it possible to host Cloudron on a Jelastic-powered cloud like Hidora?:

The problem is, the point of these services is to run a single app, and manage it. In a few words, too much magic to run more than very simple apps ^^

I meant to refer first to their "autoscaling" VPS offering where the CPU/RAM seem to scale automatically.

The underlying tech that makes this possible is from Jelastic. This is how they differentiate themselves from AWS and Heroku:

Jelastic-powered clouds automatically scale your application vertically and horizontally based on the demand on resources. Works wonderfully with the dockerized private-instance of JitsiMeet that I run on it.

If a Cloudron instance were hosted on a cloud like this, wouldn't it also help the Cloudron instance (and its active apps) automatically scale as per resource demand?

Any thoughts?

@nebulon Got the credentials. Thanks!

I am setting up a self-hosted install of Linphone's Flexisip Server (to issue domain-specific SIP accounts) which user's will access via Linphone's desktop and mobile apps.

How do I find these relevant Cloudron COTURN credentials to share with the users?