I'm the CEO of a machine learning training company. I'm just getting into self hosting (nodebb).

This started with me reading Farnell's 'Digital vegan' and then HN discussing a post I made on geminispace telling how Tiktok recommended me a video of my son... with the interesting twist that neither my son nor me had a Tiktok account.

I'm a ML practitioner (20yrs) in the field so I know how the sausage is made. But this woke me up to work harder on degoogling myself, and potentially stop using a smartphone.

I'll be lurking in this forum before contributing, if you don't mind.

@mehdi

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You know how each time you have a new project online, the default is to go get a GAnalytics account, install the JS, and look at it every now and then?

If you are using cloudflare as a Global Content Delivery Network (CDN), it now seems to have analytics built in.

Not as advanced as Google's but more than enough for most projects. It also hosts static sites and it's really fast.

Cloudflare has its detractors, so do your research. But this could simplify one step in your next project.

@jdaviescoates oh gosh, how embarrassing. Typo, it's 'unstuckphd.com' Thanks so much!

@marcusquinn some instructions on how to selfhost logseq; https://github.com/dustinlacewell/logseq-guide
I'd love for it to be included on cloudron.

There's a huge community and this could be a stepping stone for cloudron to be more popular.

@girish Thanks, it seems all is working now.
Thanks to everyone who saved the day

@jdaviescoates I would love to have it too, more so because the current alternative we do have, calibre, doesn't seem to work stable.

@luckow Thanks so much. I got postmark to work. I'm happy something works now so I can move to more important topics Email was not in my mind something that could cause this much trouble.

@BrutalBirdie said in Nodebb reported to be buggy. Not having control over cloudron's release pace could be a problem!:

Here is a screenshot of one my main cloudrons availability report for my company with all internal tools for this year so far.

That's amazingly detailed. It shows you are a pro with servers. And that you really care about keeping things running. Which is not something I am or want to be. I'm a businessman nowadays and while I love to solve tech problems every now and then, it's not a good use of my time. I really believe selfhosting is a better way to deal with technology (and it foments freedom from bigTech), but the price of admission is too high at the moment for me.

@BrutalBirdie Thanks, very usesul. The more I get to use cloudron, the more I like it.

I haven't found anything that would do well as a wiki from the options that we have; it's kinda surprising that the best FOSS can offer is no match to commercial offerings.

This is onlyoffice; and perhaps upstream.
But since this is a supported app, I'm posting here in case anyone found this problem and there's an easy workaround. Or maybe I'm doing something wrong.

You know how each time you have a new project online, the default is to go get a GAnalytics account, install the JS, and look at it every now and then?

If you are using cloudflare as a Global Content Delivery Network (CDN), it now seems to have analytics built in.

Not as advanced as Google's but more than enough for most projects. It also hosts static sites and it's really fast.

Cloudflare has its detractors, so do your research. But this could simplify one step in your next project.

@BrutalBirdie Thanks, very usesul. The more I get to use cloudron, the more I like it.

I haven't found anything that would do well as a wiki from the options that we have; it's kinda surprising that the best FOSS can offer is no match to commercial offerings.

I installed openproject with 'let the app manage users'.
When opening it for the first time, I try to register, and it tells me the admin must approve the user.

But I didn't get any admin user anywhere? (like in other apps where cloudron tells you in the app 'readme' what the temp credentials are).

How do I get an admin user?

@girish looks like nodebb self healed. The 'broken' state it was in is not broken anymore. This is good news

@girish I know, it's a terribly hard to fix problem (supporting plugins).
I don't have a solution. It's just that in my case I have to weight in this and make a decision.
Either nodebb without plugins, or do not self host.

Interesting, never thought it would come to this

@BrutalBirdie said in Nodebb reported to be buggy. Not having control over cloudron's release pace could be a problem!:

Here is a screenshot of one my main cloudrons availability report for my company with all internal tools for this year so far.

That's amazingly detailed. It shows you are a pro with servers. And that you really care about keeping things running. Which is not something I am or want to be. I'm a businessman nowadays and while I love to solve tech problems every now and then, it's not a good use of my time. I really believe selfhosting is a better way to deal with technology (and it foments freedom from bigTech), but the price of admission is too high at the moment for me.

First, I really appreciate cloudron. What it does is really amazing; a quantum jump from any other solution. I would not selfhost without it.

I have a nodebb forum that just silently broke when I wanted to remove the quill plugin. It seems the current nodebb version is buggy:
https://sudonix.com/topic/275/moving-away-from-the-quill-js-plugin/7

This brings me to the topic: do we get the latest version of everything (within reason)? Is anyone tracking whether that version is reportedly buggy? With my desktop OS, manjaro, I check the forums before they dump a big update. I install it a few days after I've seen the issues reported on the forums' "stable update" channel. I imagine there will be similar things for most of the apps cloudron supports.

We self-hosters probably cannot afford a devops person (let alone team). If a new version of an app gets published to cloudron, and borks a public production site, there's absolutely nothing we can do other than revert to a backup. This situation makes me uneasy. I want to have peace of mind more than I want to be independent and self-hosting!

Anyone thinking the same? What's your take? How much of your week goes to babysitting things that break with updates when you self host (even with cloudron)? I'm starting to feel this could be an uncomfortably high number.

@jdaviescoates I would love to have it too, more so because the current alternative we do have, calibre, doesn't seem to work stable.

@marcusquinn some instructions on how to selfhost logseq; https://github.com/dustinlacewell/logseq-guide
I'd love for it to be included on cloudron.

There's a huge community and this could be a stepping stone for cloudron to be more popular.