So I think like many here I like Open Source Software & yet here I am using a proprietary piece to run it.

I understand why Cloudron is closed. @girish @nebulon need to earn a living & this seems to be the best way for now.

My concern is mainly if you guys get offered $$$ to sell Cloudron to some big corp, or you find you're not making enough and need to do something else.

I was wondering if you were familiar with the concept of 'Exit to community'

Basically what Blender did, if you decide to sell then the community gets the first refusal. You name the price, if the price is met you sell the company to the community and the code is <likely> open-sourced.

It doesn't seem like you want to sell the company right now, & I'm not sure if the community even has the funds/ organsation needed to make a coherent bid.

Both of those things may change over time.

Would you be willing to make an in-principle statement that if/when you decide to sell, that you'd invite offers from the community in the first instance? Give us a couple of months to get our shit together?

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I wonder if https://gitcoin.co/how/funder might be a useful tool to help get software packaged?

A new Github issue queue could be set up for App requests?

Is Gitcoin something @staff have considered?

Use case would be where I'm moving a subset of users to a new server.

This subset of users is in a Cloudron group.

I export the list of user emails and use that to invite them to the new Cloudon instance.

Integration with https://amberlink.org/ would be interesting.

@girish So the use case would be where I'm moving a subset of users to a new server.

This subset of users is in a Cloudron group.

I export the list of user emails and use that to invite them to the new Cloudon instance.

I'd also like open user registration (ideally with a moderation/approval step). What's needed to make it happen?

@bubonicfred @girish any progress on Loomio? Just trialling it in our organisation and inclusion would make the case for Cloudron stronger for us.

I dunno what this problem was but it seems to have gone away now

@girish Great, I'll check and see what budget I have available.

@fbartels said in Open registration:

but if it would add this feature

Isn't it the case that Baserow lacks this feature? So to get something working today Baserow>N8N is the current best way? This may change in the future if Baserow gains that functionality?

@nebulon Yes, I did open a thread on the Rocketchat forum, I'll update there too.

Thanks for your help on this.

@sam_uk OK I've fixed this. It looks Iike I/someone had disallowed anonymous read in the settings. So it was fine when logged in, but as soon as you log out it breaks.

@nebulon said in Rocketchat loads a blank grey screen:

db.rocketchat_settings.find({})

Thanks, I've updated the logging.

@sam_uk The other thing we have been doing recently is trying to connect the Rocketchat API to N8N. May be unrelated, but worth mentioning.

@girish said in Rocketchat loads a blank grey screen:

I see an interesting request to license:isEnterprise which I don't see in our rocket.chat instance. Did you change any license setting?

No, but we have connected it to https://cloud.rocket.chat/login to try to get push working.

@nebulon Where should I set the log level please? I had a look through the Cloudron dashboard & Rocketchat menus in Cloudron but I couldn't spot this setting.

my.rocketchat.org/admin level stuff is obviously inaccessible to me at this point.

@nebulon Thanks, no changes to CSS that I'm aware of.

My Rocketchat instance doesn't load in Chrome/Firefox on MacOS or Debian and I have user reports of it not working in IOS. Windows users seem unaffected.

Dunno if the log below helps? Restarting the app doesn't fix it.

This is what pingdom says: https://tools.pingdom.com/#5f604c6b14000000 it seems to be running on some level?

Anyone got any ideas? What other logs could I look for?

Dec 01 12:47:53 +----------------------------------------------------------+
Dec 01 12:47:53 | SERVER RUNNING |
Dec 01 12:47:53 +----------------------------------------------------------+
Dec 01 12:47:53 | |
Dec 01 12:47:53 | Rocket.Chat Version: 4.2.0 |
Dec 01 12:47:53 | NodeJS Version: 12.22.1 - x64 |
Dec 01 12:47:53 | MongoDB Version: 4.2.12 |
Dec 01 12:47:53 | MongoDB Engine: unknown |
Dec 01 12:47:53 | Platform: linux |
Dec 01 12:47:53 | Process Port: 3000 |
Dec 01 12:47:53 | Site URL: https://chat.transition-space.org |
Dec 01 12:47:53 | ReplicaSet OpLog: Enabled |
Dec 01 12:47:53 | Commit Hash: a4ad199f13 |
Dec 01 12:47:53 | Commit Branch: HEAD |
Dec 01 12:47:53 | |
Dec 01 12:47:53 +----------------------------------------------------------+
Dec 01 23:12:03 {"level":40,"time":"2021-12-01T23:12:03.208Z","pid":1,"hostname":"94e3aa78-2a20-4cfc-9b9f-30348eb29b06","name":"SyncedCron","msg":"Failed to send usage report"}
Dec 02 07:12:04 {"level":40,"time":"2021-12-02T07:12:04.121Z","pid":1,"hostname":"94e3aa78-2a20-4cfc-9b9f-30348eb29b06","name":"SyncedCron","msg":"Failed to send usage report"}
Dec 02 15:41:33 (node:1) [DEP0005] DeprecationWarning: Buffer() is deprecated due to security and usability issues. Please use the Buffer.alloc(), Buffer.allocUnsafe(), or Buffer.from() methods instead.
Dec 02 16:12:03 {"level":40,"time":"2021-12-02T16:12:03.024Z","pid":1,"hostname":"94e3aa78-2a20-4cfc-9b9f-30348eb29b06","name":"SyncedCron","msg":"Failed to send usage report"}
Dec 02 19:12:04 {"level":40,"time":"2021-12-02T19:12:04.796Z","pid":1,"hostname":"94e3aa78-2a20-4cfc-9b9f-30348eb29b06","name":"SyncedCron","msg":"Failed to send usage report"}
Dec 02 22:12:04 {"level":40,"time":"2021-12-02T22:12:04.465Z","pid":1,"hostname":"94e3aa78-2a20-4cfc-9b9f-30348eb29b06","name":"SyncedCron","msg":"Failed to send usage report"}
Dec 03 10:12:06 {"level":40,"time":"2021-12-03T10:12:06.330Z","pid":1,"hostname":"94e3aa78-2a20-4cfc-9b9f-30348eb29b06","name":"SyncedCron","msg":"Failed to send usage report"}
Dec 03 13:24:46 {"level":50,"time":"2021-12-03T13:24:46.331Z","pid":1,"hostname":"94e3aa78-2a20-4cfc-9b9f-30348eb29b06","name":"System","msg":"Exception while invoking method getRoomByTypeAndName 'Invalid user [error-invalid-user]'"}
Dec 03 15:49:25 {"level":50,"time":"2021-12-03T15:49:25.978Z","pid":1,"hostname":"94e3aa78-2a20-4cfc-9b9f-30348eb29b06","name":"System","msg":"Exception while invoking method getRoomByTypeAndName 'Invalid user [error-invalid-user]'"}
Dec 03 15:51:28 {"level":50,"time":"2021-12-03T15:51:28.190Z","pid":1,"hostname":"94e3aa78-2a20-4cfc-9b9f-30348eb29b06","name":"System","msg":"Exception while invoking method getRoomByTypeAndName 'Invalid user [error-invalid-user]'"}
Dec 03 16:12:04 {"level":40,"time":"2021-12-03T16:12:04.255Z","pid":1,"hostname":"94e3aa78-2a20-4cfc-9b9f-30348eb29b06","name":"SyncedCron","msg":"Failed to send usage report"}
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@girish As you say I think it would be hard to make it stick legally. I guess there are various levels of it

1. Your existing forum comment gives me ~20% confidence it might happen.

2. A public statement on the website would increase my confidence to ~50%

3. Some QT like legal documents would push it up to ~70% confidence

4. Drafting some bespoke thing with advice from external free software lawyers might push it up to ~80% confidence.

Basically the higher the better!

It looks like QT is currently dual licenced, commercial or LGPL