Puzzled: how to log in as Cloudron user?

[wu-lee]

On starting to use the n8n application, I'm prompted to create an owner user log-in. This allows me access fine.

However, I am under the impression that any Cloudron user should be able to access this application. The log-in requires an email address as the user-name, so I can't simply use my Cloudron user name as it doesn't have the right form. But trying to use the primary email address of my user doesn't seem to work either.

The Cloudron docs for n8n don't mention how to do this, so would someone be able to clarify that for me?

Thanks

(PS I've scanned through the other posts in this category - I don't see an obvious answer here. But maybe I should add that I don't have 2FA enabled on my account!)

[jdaviescoates]

@wu-lee n8n is not one of the apps that has LDAP integration so you can't do this at present

A filter is coming to the app store, but the best place to check that right now is over on this web page:

https://www.cloudron.io/appstatus.html

[nebulon]

@wu-lee yes n8n is currently not integrated with the Cloudron user management as it lacks LDAP support. I just searched again for the status on that but seems there is only a feature request to vote for at the moment at https://community.n8n.io/t/ldap-support/535

[wu-lee]

Thanks @jdaviescoates. In other cases, the Cloudron panel in the app store explains that there is no authentication integration - for n8n, I believe it doesn't. This would be useful! Without it, I'll need to rely on that table - which I hadn't found before.

[nebulon]

@wu-lee at least from what I can see, if a new instance is installed and visited, then an account setup wizard is shown instead of a login screen.

What would you have expected in this case to make this more clear?

[jdaviescoates]

@wu-lee said in Puzzled: how to log in as Cloudron user?:

the Cloudron panel in the app store explains that there is no authentication integration - for n8n, I believe it doesn't.

I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but when installing an app you either get presented with User management options or Dashboard visibility options.

If it's just Dashboard visibility, like n8n, then there is no LDAP integration

[wu-lee]

I guess what confused me is that the "dashboard visibility" option there does look a bit like you're allowing access to members, especially as there's no mention of that LDAP integration option which could go here but doesn't. You need to have seen that option on another app to know that is missing.

What would probably be clearer would be to mention something like "This application does not integrate with Cloudron's account management" or words to that effect on that panel. (I believe I've seen this somewhere else, thought it was here, and expected to see it as a consequence.)

Stating this on the app store description would also make sense?

[wu-lee]

@nebulon I expected it to indicate the absence of LDAP integration in the app's panel on the app store (and the my-apps list). See my other reply above.

Although there is an account setup screen, I don't think that necessarily makes it clear that the application hasn't also got LDAP integration. It could plausibly need a separate administrator account set up for some unknown technical reason, and yet have access for the Cloudron users.

(My previous Cloudron application installs are so few and long ago I don't remember all the details of what to expect!)

[nebulon]

Thanks for the fresh eye on things we look for a long time already I kind of agree that we could put more emphasis on the fact that it does NOT integrate with Cloudron user management in that view.

[nebulon]

Alright, I have put the same note about the visibility setting as we have in the app configuration section now into the install dialog.