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Ampache - How to add a catalog / media with custom storage?

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  • girishG girish

    @jdaviescoates In the admin UI, add catalog. Set catalog type to local and the path will be /media/<name-of-your-cloudron-volume> (so looks like /media/Music in your case)

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    @girish great, thanks, will try that in a bit...

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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      @girish great, thanks, will try that in a bit...

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      Hmz, I just tried that but I keep getting:

      The folder couldn't be read. Does it exist? /media/Music
      

      @rmdes I think you got volumes working with this, right? How did you do it?

      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

        Hmz, I just tried that but I keep getting:

        The folder couldn't be read. Does it exist? /media/Music
        

        @rmdes I think you got volumes working with this, right? How did you do it?

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        @jdaviescoates Can you cd /media/Music when you open web terminal of the app ? (make sure you have the letter casing correct). If that's there, then it's mostly because the data it's not readable by the www-data user?

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        • girishG girish

          @jdaviescoates Can you cd /media/Music when you open web terminal of the app ? (make sure you have the letter casing correct). If that's there, then it's mostly because the data it's not readable by the www-data user?

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          @girish said in Ampache - How to add a catalog / media with custom storage?:

          @jdaviescoates Can you cd /media/Music when you open web terminal of the app ?

          Yes, I can.

          @girish said in Ampache - How to add a catalog / media with custom storage?:

          If that's there, then it's mostly because the data it's not readable by the www-data user?

          OK, so how to fix that? I assume chmod? At present it's like this:

          drwxrwx--- 2 cloudron cloudron    0 Jan 14 10:12 Music
          

          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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          • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

            @girish said in Ampache - How to add a catalog / media with custom storage?:

            @jdaviescoates Can you cd /media/Music when you open web terminal of the app ?

            Yes, I can.

            @girish said in Ampache - How to add a catalog / media with custom storage?:

            If that's there, then it's mostly because the data it's not readable by the www-data user?

            OK, so how to fix that? I assume chmod? At present it's like this:

            drwxrwx--- 2 cloudron cloudron    0 Jan 14 10:12 Music
            
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            @jdaviescoates Try changing the permissions to chmod -R 777

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            • girishG girish

              @jdaviescoates Try changing the permissions to chmod -R 777

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              @girish at first I couldn't do that because I had mounted the Volume as Read only.

              Even after changing that and then doing chmod 777 Music/ (from within the /media/ folder) it doesn't seem to have made any difference. I still get the exact same:

              The folder couldn't be read. Does it exist? /media/Music
              

              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                @jdaviescoates did you try the chmod on the host? (and not inside container)

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                • girishG girish

                  @jdaviescoates did you try the chmod on the host? (and not inside container)

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                  @girish said in Ampache - How to add a catalog / media with custom storage?:

                  @jdaviescoates did you try the chmod on the host? (and not inside container)

                  Ah, no, I did it within the Web Terminal of the App itself.

                  I think if I need to actually SSH into my server in order to actually get Volumes to work with Ampache then perhaps I'll just not use Ampache at all!

                  I'm also wondering what the security implications of making it 777 are and if that could potentially mean other people could delete files from there without me wanting them to?

                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                    @girish said in Ampache - How to add a catalog / media with custom storage?:

                    @jdaviescoates did you try the chmod on the host? (and not inside container)

                    Ah, no, I did it within the Web Terminal of the App itself.

                    I think if I need to actually SSH into my server in order to actually get Volumes to work with Ampache then perhaps I'll just not use Ampache at all!

                    I'm also wondering what the security implications of making it 777 are and if that could potentially mean other people could delete files from there without me wanting them to?

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                    @jdaviescoates said in Ampache - How to add a catalog / media with custom storage?:

                    I'm also wondering what the security implications of making it 777 are and if that could potentially mean other people could delete files from there without me wanting them to?

                    Do other people have access to the server? (i.e can they ssh in?). Do you also require that Cloudron admins should not be able to delete files from the say the Volume -> file manager ?

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                    • girishG girish

                      @jdaviescoates said in Ampache - How to add a catalog / media with custom storage?:

                      I'm also wondering what the security implications of making it 777 are and if that could potentially mean other people could delete files from there without me wanting them to?

                      Do other people have access to the server? (i.e can they ssh in?). Do you also require that Cloudron admins should not be able to delete files from the say the Volume -> file manager ?

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                      @girish said in Ampache - How to add a catalog / media with custom storage?:

                      Do other people have access to the server? (i.e can they ssh in?).

                      No.

                      @girish said in Ampache - How to add a catalog / media with custom storage?:

                      Do you also require that Cloudron admins should not be able to delete files from the say the Volume -> file manager ?

                      At present there are no other admins. But if there were, I'd trust them to not do that.

                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                        @girish said in Ampache - How to add a catalog / media with custom storage?:

                        Do other people have access to the server? (i.e can they ssh in?).

                        No.

                        @girish said in Ampache - How to add a catalog / media with custom storage?:

                        Do you also require that Cloudron admins should not be able to delete files from the say the Volume -> file manager ?

                        At present there are no other admins. But if there were, I'd trust them to not do that.

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                        @jdaviescoates Ah ok, if there are no admins, there is no danger of chmod 777 and other people being able to delete things.

                        A more "unixy" way is to create a group. Cloudron already creates a group called media. Then, add the www-data (that ampache uses) to that group on the host. Then change ownership of the directory to be media group and have rwx permissions. That should work too.

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                        • girishG girish

                          @jdaviescoates Ah ok, if there are no admins, there is no danger of chmod 777 and other people being able to delete things.

                          A more "unixy" way is to create a group. Cloudron already creates a group called media. Then, add the www-data (that ampache uses) to that group on the host. Then change ownership of the directory to be media group and have rwx permissions. That should work too.

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                          @girish this just doesn't feel like the Cloudron "it just works" way 🙂

                          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                            @girish this just doesn't feel like the Cloudron "it just works" way 🙂

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                            @jdaviescoates yeah, it's a bit rough.. AFAIK, fixing permissions cannot be done for ext4 mounts without a chmod and I don't know if it's a good idea to do this automagically since it changes the metadata on the external disk. Maybe someone else can chime in.

                            Is yours a ext4 volume or something else? Because others like CIFS support umask flag when mounting. Maybe that's an option too.

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                            • girishG girish

                              @jdaviescoates yeah, it's a bit rough.. AFAIK, fixing permissions cannot be done for ext4 mounts without a chmod and I don't know if it's a good idea to do this automagically since it changes the metadata on the external disk. Maybe someone else can chime in.

                              Is yours a ext4 volume or something else? Because others like CIFS support umask flag when mounting. Maybe that's an option too.

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                              @girish said in Ampache - How to add a catalog / media with custom storage?:

                              CIFS support umask flag when mounting

                              Yeah it's CIFS

                              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                @girish said in Ampache - How to add a catalog / media with custom storage?:

                                CIFS support umask flag when mounting

                                Yeah it's CIFS

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                                @jdaviescoates Maybe you can try file_mode and dir_mode flag in the /etc/fstab. See https://askubuntu.com/questions/313093/how-do-i-mount-a-cifs-share-via-fstab-and-give-full-rw-to-guest .

                                I guess this is part of the complexity in implementing this 🙂 Worth automating!

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                                  @girish

                                  Hi,

                                  I have a similar problem of @necrevistonnezr here.

                                  I installed Ampache with the docker, although I am not familiar with the docker infrastructure, nor with the issue that can arise with it.

                                  My docker is in /home/cocconat/ampache/

                                  Once I installed the service all run smooth, and I can add the two test songs in the /home/cocconat/ampache/data/media/

                                  All amazing.

                                  Now I would like to add to the Catalog my entire music library. It lives in an external storage mounted in /home/cocconat/data/Music

                                  I tried to make a link to the folder with

                                  sudo ln -s /home/cocconat/Music ampache/data/media/music
                                  

                                  but the catalogue does not see the linked folder,

                                  I also tried to add a custom path in the Admin -> Add Catalog, I chose Local catalog and use the abs path of my folder /home/cocconat/data/Music or the relative path ../../Music which seems a bit silly ehehe.

                                  Anyway, no way to find this folder.
                                  My storage is an exfat mounted with fstab options: defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=022 0 1
                                  which should be fine if I do not want to upload/change the files.

                                  Is this a problem? shall I add www-data to my group?

                                  And how am I supposed to add the folder? via the link or somehow else?

                                  Thanks,
                                  cocconat

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                                    @girish

                                    Hi,

                                    I have a similar problem of @necrevistonnezr here.

                                    I installed Ampache with the docker, although I am not familiar with the docker infrastructure, nor with the issue that can arise with it.

                                    My docker is in /home/cocconat/ampache/

                                    Once I installed the service all run smooth, and I can add the two test songs in the /home/cocconat/ampache/data/media/

                                    All amazing.

                                    Now I would like to add to the Catalog my entire music library. It lives in an external storage mounted in /home/cocconat/data/Music

                                    I tried to make a link to the folder with

                                    sudo ln -s /home/cocconat/Music ampache/data/media/music
                                    

                                    but the catalogue does not see the linked folder,

                                    I also tried to add a custom path in the Admin -> Add Catalog, I chose Local catalog and use the abs path of my folder /home/cocconat/data/Music or the relative path ../../Music which seems a bit silly ehehe.

                                    Anyway, no way to find this folder.
                                    My storage is an exfat mounted with fstab options: defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=022 0 1
                                    which should be fine if I do not want to upload/change the files.

                                    Is this a problem? shall I add www-data to my group?

                                    And how am I supposed to add the folder? via the link or somehow else?

                                    Thanks,
                                    cocconat

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                                    @cocconat this is the Cloudron forum for the Ampache package, so things which are being discussed are Cloudron related or specific to Ampache package. They may or may not work for docker deployments.

                                    You might want to take this up upstream here - https://github.com/ampache/ampache/discussions

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                                    • girishG girish

                                      @cocconat this is the Cloudron forum for the Ampache package, so things which are being discussed are Cloudron related or specific to Ampache package. They may or may not work for docker deployments.

                                      You might want to take this up upstream here - https://github.com/ampache/ampache/discussions

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                                      @girish Thanks 🙂

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