I would like someone to review my greenlight-app.
Just heads up this is my first app for Cloudron so I expect some issues but I will be happy to fix and learn from them.

I can understand the wish for a chat, but I agree with @nebulon and everyone else endorsing the official forum.

Having the conversation in the official forum has many benefits.

Lets just switch into the mindset of a new Cloudron user / developer.

Just as an example:

• I need the lamp app but with php 5.X.
• Why is there no php 5 lamp app?
• How can I create a custom php 5 app?

What do most people do? They will type that question into a search engine.

Chat vs. Forum

If this discussion would take place in the chat, there would be no way for a new user to find public and easy access to that information about this issue/question.
How should they know they need to go threw a chat with X people talking about all different kind of topics.
Also you lock this information behind a software like matrix, rocketchat, slack, matermost yada yada.

New users want answers which are accessible without needing to sign up for anything.

Compared to an open discussion in the forum, which will be scraped by search engines and will be publicly available with no need to sign up or do anything to access this information.

IMHO chat is nice, but when using one there has to be a policy where findings and solutions must be also published in this forum.
And enforcing such a policy or even establish such will be hard.

That's just what I have in mind about a chat.

Cheers

@jordanurbs said in Can we have a "Freelance Work" group on the forum please?:

Yes please! I need help installing forks of certain apps as custom cloudron apps. I have the skillset to figure it out eventually, just not the time.

Because of that, i would love to throw someone a little money to help get me started.

For future readers:

This doc explains what is needed - https://docs.cloudron.io/custom-apps/tutorial/

TL;DR

• Create an account on DockerHub - https://hub.docker.com/
• Go to your Cloudron instance https://my.domain.tld/#/settings and configure the Private Docker Registry Server: docker.io and your login details
• Install the cloudron cli on your local machine

  sudo npm install -g cloudron
  

• Get your forked app

  git clone https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/tutorial-nodejs-app nodejs-app
  

• Build the image and push it

  # enter app directory
  $ cd nodejs-app
  
  # build the app
  $ docker build -t username/nodejs-app:1.0.0 .
  
  # push the image. if the push fails, you have to 'docker login' with your username
  $ docker push username/nodejs-app:1.0.0
  

• Install

  cloudron install --image username/nodejs-app:1.0.0
  

Done.
For further information please visit the official documentation.

@d19dotca

Update. I have finished my mail server name change.

All the dns records where updated automatically, even the custom MX record on namecheap if it existed before.

The one thing that confused me second was the PTR record aka. reverse dns.

Just went to hetzner and fixed that. All working no problems.

I am currently working on the greenlight Cloudron App for BigBlueButton.
So far the basic functionality is working fine but the ldap-auth is giving me trouble.

Right now the /app/code/bin/start script writes these variables

sed -i -e "s/LDAP_SERVER=.*/LDAP_SERVER=$CLOUDRON_LDAP_SERVER/g" /app/data/.env \
&& sed -i -e "s/LDAP_PORT=.*/LDAP_PORT=$CLOUDRON_LDAP_PORT/g" /app/data/.env \
&& sed -i -e "s/LDAP_BASE=.*/LDAP_BASE=$CLOUDRON_LDAP_USERS_BASE_DN/g" /app/data/.env \
&& sed -i -e "s/LDAP_BIND_DN=.*/LDAP_BIND_DN=$CLOUDRON_LDAP_BIND_DN/g" /app/data/.env \
&& sed -i -e "s/LDAP_PASSWORD=.*/LDAP_PASSWORD=$CLOUDRON_LDAP_BIND_PASSWORD=/g" /app/data/.env \
&& sed -i -e "s/LDAP_METHOD=.*/LDAP_METHOD=plain/g" /app/data/.env \
&& sed -i -e "s/LDAP_UID=.*/LDAP_UID=cn/g" /app/data/.env \
&& sed -i -e "s/LDAP_AUTH=.*/LDAP_AUTH=simple/g" /app/data/.env \
&& sed -i -e "s/LDAP_FILTER=.*/LDAP_FILTER=\(\&\(objectclass=user\)\(\|\(username=%uid\)\(mail=%uid\)\)\)/g" /app/data/.env \
&& sed -i -e "s/LDAP_ATTRIBUTE_MAPPING=.*/LDAP_ATTRIBUTE_MAPPING=uid=uid;name=displayname;email=mail;nickname=givenName;/g" /app/data/.env

But the LDAP Login fails.

INFO: [af608168-79eb-41e2-818c-1e514f0306bd] method=POST path=/auth/ldap format=html controller=SessionsController action=ldap status=302 duration=17.26 view=0.00 db=0.71 location=https://greenlight.stage.gzevd.de/ldap_signin host=greenlight 
INFO: [70994248-8131-4f51-bfdb-db159292bca0] method=GET path=/ldap_signin format=html controller=SessionsController action=ldap_signin status=200 duration=21.65 view=15.03 db=0.86 host=greenlight 

Maybe someone can help out?

I just pushed my work here: https://git.cloudron.io/BrutalBirdie/greenlight-app
ps: Please ignore my .gitlab-ci.yml this is for my own gitlab for deploying and testing the App.

EDIT:
Thanks @nebulon
The LDAP_UID was wrong. Has to be username
And the Filter can be deleted.
Pushed.

https://fivem.net/

FiveM is a modification for Grand Theft Auto V enabling you to play multiplayer on customized dedicated servers, powered by Cfx.re.

and it's done and could be added as wip.

https://git.cloudron.io/BrutalBirdie/fivem-app

@p44 said in Where I can find SMTP credentials for Statping?:

@brutalbirdie Of course I checked doc references before post a message here... also searched several keywords in the forum, on the docs.

But it would be redundant and useless to specify each time before posting a question: "Hello, I did a search before to post, I googled, I searched docs, I searched forum, so this is my question and bla bla bla".

I could have easily opened a ticket for technical assistance and had a private answer, but the answers to the questions asked in private can be useful to the whole community.

Posting a question on the forum, which is not clearly answered in the app documentation, may make it easier for other users to search for the same thing and find a path to resolve issues.

In fact, first bullet in app documentation is:

Questions? Ask in the Cloudron Forum - Statping

You should understand that not everyone here is a developer. Is only a simple user. Also with Linux command line, not everyone here is expert like you.

Commands like "printenv", "grep", and so ... never used that before.

That's why I'm a Cloudron customer: to make life easier.

So I totally reject your starting answer: I'm not here to take lessons of netiquette.

I learned "on the ground" that installing a Worpdress instance or a LAMP instance, you can find credential in "credential.txt"...

About your suggestion: I appreciate very much your answer, and time you spent finding a solution, thank's a lot for advice.

With printenv | grep -i CLOUDRON_MAIL I solved my question so I can move forward.

Many many thank's for your patience and sorry if my answer can little bit hitting you.

Edit:
@girish May be it could be useful to write "credential.txt" also for Statping?

I think you got me totally wrong.
I did not intend to imply you did not read the docs or did not try.
Or appear to disliked you asking this. I fully agree with your statement:

Posting a question on the forum, which is not clearly answered in the app documentation, may make it easier for other users to search for the same thing and find a path to resolve issues.
No, not at all!

I am fully aware most cloudron users, use cloudron because it makes things a lot easier.
And I do not expect every user to be a linux power user.
My reply was more like a "help for helping yourself" if this makes sense.

My solution is written in a mindset of general help for any app, which also helps people in the future reading this or searching for this.
We all know forums where people just reply - Yea this is the solution but since the project scope and features can change I try to do my best to provide feedback which has long term help. In this case of educating the workflow of finding information about an app.

If I have offended you in any way I am sorry about that and did not intend to do so.

@girish feeling lazy, will wait for the official update

@jeau hmm another good catch.

The problem with Greenlight is also, every time you make .env file changes you need to restart the app to take effect.

I will look into this option and make an update tomorrow.

Thanks for reporting.

@nebulon Changes pushed.

@doodlemania2 ARG I think I read something about nextcloud talk not support turnservers with TLS?

"(D)TLS is currently not supported by Nextcloud Talk and does not have any real security benefit anyway. For more details see the changelog below." -- https://help.nextcloud.com/t/howto-setup-nextcloud-talk-with-turn-server/30794/93703

So be aware of this.

@robi said in BigBlueButton - web conferencing system for on-line learning:

@girish bbb-install.sh supports installing BigBlueButton 2.3 and coturn on Ubuntu 18.04.

Yes but 2.3 is not stable.

TL;DR
It's not time yet. ~ Sound warning!

I also talked to Fred Dixon some weeks before last Christmas about the state of 2.3.

Here a quote from him, which I gather from my memory (all statements without guarantee):

We will not give a release date because we only ship a functional product and don't work with due dates.
This only sets false expectations and leads to bad code.

I can share this 2.3-draft where you could get some information about current state of 2.3.

Lets talk BBB and turnserver.

There is a turn addon default by Cloudron.
Problem is, its a docker container cloudron/turn:1.1.0 running on port:

listening-port=3478
tls-listening-port=5349

This turnserver is kinda useless.
In short terms, a app is needed for turn, so the turn can listen to port 80/443.
Why?
Company / School with a firewall.
Only Ports 80,443,22,993,587 outbound is allowed. (Everything else blocked).
The turn server should now act like as a MITM (big empasis - like a) so this client can use webRTC via turn.
But since it's running on port 5349/3478 its useless.

afaik girish and nebulon are aware of this but it's not a big priority right now. (Which I fully support)
Also BBB takes a lot of resources. For running small sessions 2-5 People or even 10 it could work out.
But since BBB is running alongside other Apps this could lead to quite a problem if to many people turn on their webcam.

@p44 said in Where I can find SMTP credentials for Statping?:

@brutalbirdie Of course I checked doc references before post a message here... also searched several keywords in the forum, on the docs.

But it would be redundant and useless to specify each time before posting a question: "Hello, I did a search before to post, I googled, I searched docs, I searched forum, so this is my question and bla bla bla".

I could have easily opened a ticket for technical assistance and had a private answer, but the answers to the questions asked in private can be useful to the whole community.

Posting a question on the forum, which is not clearly answered in the app documentation, may make it easier for other users to search for the same thing and find a path to resolve issues.

In fact, first bullet in app documentation is:

Questions? Ask in the Cloudron Forum - Statping

You should understand that not everyone here is a developer. Is only a simple user. Also with Linux command line, not everyone here is expert like you.

Commands like "printenv", "grep", and so ... never used that before.

That's why I'm a Cloudron customer: to make life easier.

So I totally reject your starting answer: I'm not here to take lessons of netiquette.

I learned "on the ground" that installing a Worpdress instance or a LAMP instance, you can find credential in "credential.txt"...

About your suggestion: I appreciate very much your answer, and time you spent finding a solution, thank's a lot for advice.

With printenv | grep -i CLOUDRON_MAIL I solved my question so I can move forward.

Many many thank's for your patience and sorry if my answer can little bit hitting you.

Edit:
@girish May be it could be useful to write "credential.txt" also for Statping?

I think you got me totally wrong.
I did not intend to imply you did not read the docs or did not try.
Or appear to disliked you asking this. I fully agree with your statement:

Posting a question on the forum, which is not clearly answered in the app documentation, may make it easier for other users to search for the same thing and find a path to resolve issues.
No, not at all!

I am fully aware most cloudron users, use cloudron because it makes things a lot easier.
And I do not expect every user to be a linux power user.
My reply was more like a "help for helping yourself" if this makes sense.

My solution is written in a mindset of general help for any app, which also helps people in the future reading this or searching for this.
We all know forums where people just reply - Yea this is the solution but since the project scope and features can change I try to do my best to provide feedback which has long term help. In this case of educating the workflow of finding information about an app.

If I have offended you in any way I am sorry about that and did not intend to do so.

I could simply tell you how, but I would like to use this as education. (Sorry it hit you :D)

Where can I find X Information about app Y?

First of all the doc of the app.
In your example: https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/statping/

This doc did not help. What now?

Lets go deeper. You know you want the SMTP Setting for the app.
Well let's check out the app on gitlab: https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/statping-app

Every Cloudron app has a CloudronManifest.json lets take a look at the CloudronManifest.json|

{
  "id": "com.statping.cloudronapp",
  "version": "1.0.0",
  "title": "Statping",
  "tagline": "Web and App Status Monitoring",
  "website": "https://statping.com/",
  "contactEmail": "support@cloudron.io",
  "author": "Statping developers",
  "healthCheckPath": "/health",
  "configurePath": "/dashboard",
  "tags": [ "monitor", "ping", "status", "uptime" ],
  "httpPort": 8080,
  "addons": {
    "localstorage": {},
    "postgresql": {},
    "sendmail": {}
  },
  "mediaLinks": [
    "https://screenshots.cloudron.io/com.statping.cloudronapp/statping01.png",
    "https://screenshots.cloudron.io/com.statping.cloudronapp/statping02.png"
  ],
  "changelog": "file://CHANGELOG",
  "description": "file://DESCRIPTION.md",
  "manifestVersion": 2,
  "postInstallMessage": "file://POSTINSTALL.md",
  "minBoxVersion": "5.4.0",
  "capabilities": [ "ping" ],
  "forumUrl": "https://forum.cloudron.io/category/92/statping",
  "documentationUrl": "https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/statping",
  "icon": "file://logo.png"
}

We can get from this that the addons: localstorage, postgresql and sendmail is used.

Let's go back to https://docs.cloudron.io/ and put addons in the search, leads to this https://docs.cloudron.io/custom-apps/addons/ where we can view the sendmail addon docs.

sendmail

The sendmail addon can be used to send email from the application.

Exported environment variables:

CLOUDRON_MAIL_SMTP_SERVER=     # the mail server (relay) that apps can use. this can be an IP or DNS name
CLOUDRON_MAIL_SMTP_PORT=       # the mail server port. Currently, this port disables TLS and STARTTLS.
CLOUDRON_MAIL_SMTPS_PORT=      # SMTPS server port.
CLOUDRON_MAIL_SMTP_USERNAME=   # the username to use for authentication
CLOUDRON_MAIL_SMTP_PASSWORD=   # the password to use for authentication
CLOUDRON_MAIL_FROM=            # the "From" address to use
CLOUDRON_MAIL_DOMAIN=          # the domain name to use for email sending (i.e username@domain)

These are variables which can be echoed in the app web-terminal.
So go to your app web-terminal and do:

echo CLOUDRON_MAIL_SMTP_SERVER

You can redo this step for each variable or do:

printenv | grep -i CLOUDRON_MAIL

@nebulon Ahh okay that makes it clearer why this style was chosen.

I can live with that explanation.

The new Buttons top right next to the App Label replaced the "Console" Tab on left.
Which is nice, but I think the coloring is odd.
Everything else funktional (which does something) in Cloudron has the Blue color, like the "Save" Button or "Reset Icon" aka. #2196f3

Would look like this.

Another Idea is to place the buttons next to the actual status of the app.
With the mindset "Oh I see the state is Running? Where can I see whats going on?"
Well right next to you

(ps: I am no Web Designer nor Web Developer so please excuse the poor execution)

First of all thanks for that.

My current Cloudron workflow is to just git push my latest changes which then get build and deployed via Gitlab CI/CD (private Gitlab not https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron).

This makes testing way faster for me.

Duped topic https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/3855/certificate-renewal-error-namecheap
Is also solved and will be in the next update or you can apply a hotfix.

@atrilahiji said in Namecheap API key not working:

@girish Lol they just said "fuck it" and doubled my quota. Testing it out.

Classic namecheap support

I had this issue once, double check if there is a space at the end or front.