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Has there been any consideration of adding RustDesk to Cloudron, or are there specific challenges preventing its inclusion?

Are there any updates or further alternatives to Nextcloud regarding this?

@LoudLemur said in Papra - Document Management Platform:

https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/12472/please-use-this-template-to-make-an-app-wishlist-request

Thank you, did my best now

Main Page: https://papra.app
Demo: https://demo.papra.app
Git: https://github.com/papra-hq/papra
Licence: AGPL-3.0
Docker: Yes

Summary:

Forget about that receipt of that gift you bought for your friend last year, or that warranty for your new phone. With Papra, you can easily store, forget, and retrieve your documents whenever you need them.

A live demo of the platform is available at demo.papra.app (no backend, client-side local storage only).

Papra is under active development, the core functionalities are stable and usable. With lots of features and improvements added regularly.

Feedback and bug reports are highly appreciated to help us improve the platform.

Features

Document management: Upload, store, and manage your documents in one place.
Organizations: Create organizations to manage documents with family, friends, or colleagues.
Search: Quickly search for documents with full-text search.
Authentication: User accounts and authentication.
Dark Mode: A dark theme for those late-night document management sessions.
Responsive Design: Works on all devices, from desktops to mobile phones.
Open Source: The project is open-source and free to use.
Self-hosting: Host your own instance of Papra using Docker or other methods.
Tags: Organize your documents with tags.
Email ingestion: Send/forward emails to a generated address to automatically import documents.
Content extraction: Automatically extract text from images or scanned documents for search.
Tagging Rules: Automatically tag documents based on custom rules.
Folder ingestion: Automatically import documents from a folder.
CLI: Manage your documents from the command line.
API, SDK and webhooks: Build your own applications on top of Papra.
i18n: Support for multiple languages.
Coming soon: Document sharing: Share documents with others.
Coming soon: Document requests: Generate upload links for people to add documents.
Coming maybe one day: Mobile app: Access and upload documents on the go.
Coming maybe one day: Desktop app: Access and upload documents from your computer.
Coming maybe one day: Browser extension: Upload documents from your browser.
Coming maybe one day: AI: Use AI to help you manage or tag your documents.

Notes:

Paperless-ngx can do a lot more, but it also requires more configuration.
With Papra, documents are simply ingested; a few automations for tags and separate archives – that’s basically it. But it’s very, very fast, including full-text search and so on.

Thank you for sharing your perspective – I’ll look into this further.

https://social.tchncs.de/@flomp

Thanks for the detailed write-up – I generally agree with the direction you're taking, especially regarding enterprise-readiness.

One additional aspect I’ve been thinking about: redundancy and failover.
As far as I can tell, Cloudron currently doesn’t offer a built-in way to mirror or replicate an instance across multiple servers in an active-active or active-passive setup.

The only feasible option right now seems to be to regularly back up the primary instance to an external location (e.g. Hetzner Storage Box, another VM, or rsync/restic setup) and keep a secondary recovery VM on standby. In case of failure, a manual restore could be initiated relatively quickly.

I’d be very interested to see Cloudron explore options for more automated redundancy or rapid recovery, possibly by supporting database replication (e.g. PostgreSQL), block-level snapshot mirroring, or some kind of lightweight failover orchestration.

Are there any best practices from the community around this already?

Thanks so much for your thoughtful and encouraging response – that really means a lot.

I also really like how you framed Cloudron’s own way of being open – that made me smile and actually made me think a bit deeper about what "openness" means in different contexts.

You’re right: sometimes we overlook the tools right in front of us. Glad we could rediscover Matrix together – and yes, Zulip has strong merits too. I appreciate your balanced view.

Why not Matrix?

Matrix offers clear advantages over centralized platforms like Zulip, especially for users who prioritize privacy, control, and interoperability. Its fully federated architecture lets you host your own server while communicating seamlessly across a global, decentralized network — eliminating vendor lock-in and single points of failure.

End-to-end encryption is built-in by default, providing strong, device-to-device security that protects sensitive data. This is essential for organizations and individuals who demand confidentiality.

Matrix’s extensive bridging ecosystem enables integration with Slack, IRC, Telegram, Signal, and more, allowing cross-platform communication without forcing users to switch apps. Zulip lacks this versatility and remains limited to its own silo.

Backed by active development, governmental and institutional adoption, and a robust open-source community, Matrix is future-proof and scalable for both private and enterprise use.

In contrast, Zulip’s centralized model, lack of federation, and absence of native E2EE make it less suitable for privacy-conscious or distributed teams. If you want a secure, flexible, and truly decentralized communication platform, Matrix is the superior choice.

What are the advantages of Zulip compared to Matrix?

Wanderer – Self-Hosted Outdoor Navigation App

Wanderer is a privacy-first, open-source alternative to commercial route planning apps like Komoot. Designed for self-hosting, it allows outdoor enthusiasts to explore, plan, and visualize hiking and biking tours – without relying on third-party platforms.

Key Features

self-hosted & Open Source
Own your data. Wanderer runs entirely on your server and respects your digital autonomy.

• Komoot Tour Import
  Migrate your existing tours easily using the Komoot integration – keep your favorite routes.
• Modern UI with 3D Mapping
  Plan and replay routes in an intuitive interface with 2D/3D map rendering.
• Tour Sharing & Feeds
  Share your adventures with friends or keep everything private – your choice.
• Docker-Ready Setup
  Easy deployment via Docker – ideal for Cloudron integration.
• Active Development
  Maintained by an engaged developer with regular feature updates.

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Why It Matters

In times of rising paywalls and increasing data centralization, Wanderer empowers users to break free from proprietary platforms. Especially after the recent acquisition of Komoot by Bending Spoons and the shift towards more restrictive subscription models, Wanderer offers a sustainable, transparent and user-controlled solution for outdoor navigation.

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Why Cloudron Should Include Wanderer

• Fits Cloudron's vision of user-friendly self-hosting
• Encourages data sovereignty and open standards
• Ready-to-go Docker setup simplifies packaging
• Growing user interest due to Komoot changes
• Expands Cloudron's app ecosystem for outdoor, fitness, and mapping enthusiasts

https://github.com/Flomp/wanderer

Oh. Librechat can handle spaces. That's nice. Thanks for your efforts.

It looks like this is constantly being developed further. https://www.group-office.com/blog/

The functions of SOGO extended to include collaborative working with files. https://www.group-office.com/features

In addition, tasks, chat and video conferencing, project management and finance, such as creating invoices.

Looks like the perfect solution