This doesn't answer the question but the multi-server feature is intended to distribute the apps over multiple servers/nodes. The design is not for providing HA functionality.

@martinkbs This is very informative, thank you.
Scaleway does seem cost-effective for those hosting in the EU (Hetzner, Scaleway, etc).
Also, the glacier option looks interesting too.

@timconsidine hahaha yeah no worries I never got the impression you were complaining. More that I hate to leave people hanging so I just wanted to update. Its the same with the Humhub app I've been sponsored to make. That one is going to come first though because there is a timeline.

EDIT: Added re-directs. I also just realized I have my old domain in applications I sent recently. Whoops!

I can throw together a parts list as well if you want suggestions. Availability and pricing will of course vary based on location.

@nebulon That's awesome! Thanks so much! It's gonna make running the server a lot more affordable :D.

@ccfu said in Is it possible to migrate just emails?:

@d19dotca said in Is it possible to migrate just emails?:

Reason I'm asking is that my understanding is you can't really split roles up between servers for the same domain. In other words, it's not really feasible to have one Cloudron server hosting the website for example.com and another Cloudron server hosting the mail for example.com. My understanding is that everything related to the domain needs to be handled on each server.

Out of interest, why would it not be feasible to split domains between hosting and email? We do this without any problems. On the servers hosting the apps either outbound mail is set to relay via the server handling email or, if the app manages its own email settings, these are set to use the SMTP on the server handling email for the domain.

I may have misunderstood but I think this post is why I was under that impression that the Cloudron domains emails should be on the same server as the apps for that same domain.

https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/5127/problems-with-email-access-on-multi-domain-cloudron

use the search function in the upper right of the page.

If you search for icons, the post comes up as the second hit.

@jdaviescoates I have one small Hetzner instance, but I doubt use it much, so not familiar.

Initially I didn't like the 6 months billing on small servers (nb only on small ones), but then I realised it saved me a lot of bank reconciliation work and invoice tracking. So now I am ok with it.

@scooke it screams "enterprise" 🙂

Whoops, indeed, I stand corrected. What @Hillside502 noticed is correct. It seems we setup DMARC policy for outbound mail as well (but only if there is no existing record). For some reason, I thought this wasn't the case.

@d19dotca Can't tell as I haven't run out of RAM yet.. huge machines.. ;-/

Best to try on smaller ones.

For those who don't know, https://cockpit-project.org/ .

We are live - https://www.vultr.com/marketplace/apps/cloudron

Thanks for the happy note!

@girish thank you, that made it a bit easier 👍🏼

@girish said in JMAP:

on dovecot side, JMAP support is not really being actively worked on - http://dovecot.2317879.n4.nabble.com/JMAP-support-td73445.html

Yeah, kind of being ignored a little bit. lol
AFAICS, JMAP does not seem to bring such great enhancements such as to shake the email servers industry, yet. That is very likely why there's seems to be not so much enthusiasm about this protocol. IMHO
Andy

@scooke said in Cloudron Pricing and Licensing Help:

I'm just thinking digitally here, but most fonts, Wordpress themes and plugins (and other paid themes and plugins), etc. are for one installation/project.

As you mention it, first fonts are not in the same category as Wordpress which carries a General Public License (GPL) which carries the obligation to ALL themes and plugins to be produce and distributed under the exact same condition, meaning they must be GPL as well.

Limiting the number of instance installation in the case of themes or plugins for Wordpress, or any FOSS which comes with such license of freedom, is among the biggest SCAM going on in this sphere right now, as this is a violation of the GPL license which, among other things, stipulate that once you have a copy, you can freely copy and distribute it under the same license's terms. Hence, technically speaking, if a wp theme developer does limits you in the number of instances you can install, then he's breaking the license himself which they still pretend to be GPL which is an absolute non-sense.

Clourdon is NOT GPL, nor even open source if I'm not mistaken, right now, even though most of the software part of the offer are. That's not a problem at all. simply because you do not absolutely need a Cloudron box to run any of the software offer which are coming with GPL. When one pays for either cPanel or Plesk the principle is the same, the prices are always PER INSTANCE, obviously, and that is even though they too offer GPL apps installation via their dashboard via Softaculous and the like.

My 2 cents worth, tale care 🙂
Andy

@subtlecourage I'm not sure on which machine you get this message now, but have you checked for file permissions (chmod) on your RSA keys that could also be a factor.

Andy

@jlx89 yeah, admins always have access to everything afaik

@jdaviescoates Awesome, thanks for the tip! I just replaced the LAMP apps with Surfer for the redirect role, that saves some resources off MySQL and Redis which is nice. Thanks again. 🙂

@girish Correct. In my case they're almost all managed by Cloudron with some exceptions like extra records needed by Mailjet for example, but yeah the vast majority of the DNS records between all the domains I manage are Cloudron-related.

@ccfu That's a good point. Probably one for their forum but I think I'd like that too so may help develop.

@d19dotca Swift based object stores are one of the least advanced.

IBMs is one of the most. (20GB free)

@seeker makes sense. Well, thanks for sharing! Already downloaded used it!

@seeker Send me your GitLab.com ID here or via DM and I'll share access if you like. All EspoCRM based. Needs a teeny bit of config but overall will have you an impression of what's possible.

@timconsidine
https://mailbox.org/en/ has also very good spam detection, is privacy conscious (inter alia data centers in Germany, anonymous registration possible, etc., see https://mailbox.org/en/security) and offers quite easy end-to-end encryption. Works reliable as an smtp-relay for domains as well (no deliverability issues).

Only issue is the constant notification that my domain isn't configurated correctly for mail.