To confirm on my R&D inspired by this thread. We're happy now with:

IDrive on the introduction offer pricing Tarball for the backup method IDrive and Tarball encryption 7 Daily, 4 Weekly, 12 Monthly retention policy

@JOduMonT good idea. I think it would be nice if we had a "migrate domain" which "moves" everything - dashboard, MAIL FROM, mailboxes etc. All these are available individually but not as a single operation.

Can you make a feature request?

@marcusquinn said in Chat application thoughts?:

native multi-person video calls

I had a little play with Matrix's new beta video call feature recently too, worked OK considering it's still a beta 🙂

@marcusquinn this would not make it so occasional, and provide for other automations to make it more frequent.

@marcusquinn I have pretty much all my notifications completely turned off, but yeah, that's a good tip 🙂

It's the pinging and vibrating my wife's does all the time that gets me. I don't understand how it doesn't drive her mad too! But she doesn't understand how I can tolerate so much mess either, so there you are! 😆

@girish

No worries. Thanks for all your help!

https://securityheaders.com/

And some information about, who, why and how...
https://securityheaders.com/about/
https://securityheaders.com/faq/

@nebulon oh it’s definitely not concerning to me at all. It’s just an area where I think it can be improved. To me 20% of a single core is very different than 20% of the system CPU.

Seeing most of the apps at basically 0% except for the odd spike of above 20% of a single core on an 8-core system just seems like noise to me.

I’d have thought it’d just be ideal if it was graphed as 20% of the system CPU instead of a single core CPU for which apps make the cut into the graph.

Maybe I’m all alone on that view though 😅

@timconsidine Looks like a rare example of genuine freemium value too. Most of the reason I'm here is because I loath per-user pricing for anything. This is much more value and merit-based...
Bring your own art, or here's our business model for selling you some fully-integrated.

Won't be long before you can't buy a latte for $15. Cloudron's been getting cheaper, in real terms, for years now.

@girish

Hey sorry.... just a quick update I found the MySQL table and was able to edit it as needed. Issue got cleared up after running a couple queries. Thanks for your help!

@girish it worked quite smoothly in the end but decided to upgrade my hosting and then have everything on one server again.

Backup time and size are an issue though. Especially having to wait until one is done before editing/adding or removing apps. Having a fast local disk to backup to helps though 🙂

Thanks @nj for this great update!
Has anyone managed to update?
I'm stuck with this issue: https://github.com/njsubedi/cloudron-keycloak/issues/7

@jdaviescoates I did some quick and dirty tests and so far it seems to be okay. I received mails in my Gmail account and in several others from some small and mostly german providers. Mails arrive at my webhoster.

As I don't have an MS365 account I tested outlook.com Mail was accepted from server but was moved into spam folder. I marked it as no spam and next mail arrived. Guess thats okay for me. I also checked mails with attachments (pdf).

As I already mentioned, I am sending very few mails and like 99% are incoming mails. So its okay for me.

have you stress test your mail server .. sending more emails to see its limits ( in 1 gb ram small vps) ?

@JOduMonT

ECC now has mostly the same price as non-ECC, and AMD CPU support them for years.

But in general is better to have ECC if using FS that takes advantage of that, BTRFS, ZFS.
Or if you use TMPFS.

But if you care about latency then normal RAM is better, ECC slows down communication.

@fbartels Oh sorry about that. Thanks for clarifying that.

@girish said in Cloudron Support for Cloudron as it's supposed to be installed, and a separate Category for other methods:

how do you think creating categories will help?

I think the idea is that the rest of us who install on an Ubuntu VPS can just ignore that other category! 😛

@Stardenver said in Storage Box vs HDD for volumes:

Scares me a bit now.

Yeah, I'm generally a bit scared of encryption unless it's all automated by some app like Signal or whatever. I'm always worried something will go wrong or I'll forget/ loose my pw and loose access to my own files. I tend to feel that in my own personal circumstances that is a greater risk than someone nefarious managing to access my unencrypted files, so I mostly just don't encrypt stuff.

But this sounds like a pretty good method of getting Ubuntu's full disk encryption set-up with Cloudron (so long as you store you passwords safely, like in a password manager and printed out on paper, and maybe somewhere else too for good measure):

https://forum.cloudron.io/post/59269

For now though, I reckon my files are safe enough behind insanely long passwords plus 2FA 🤷

@LoudLemur As @scooke mentioned, there is a blog about it, but the basic steps are the same. Difference here is opening the ports on your modem (or firewall) manually. The defaults are gonna be 25, 465, 587, 993, 443, & 80 (basic email and web server functionality) though according to that blog post, only 443 is required

@marcusquinn ah yes, indeed. I didn't try out icedrive but idrive.

@3246 They should add a way to add 2 backup jobs setup however you like:

For Me:

Job 1 - Backup to Local external disk for fast access in case of emergency

Job 2 - Offsite backup for long-storage.

Both encrypted, and this offers a quick restore (in the event of just needing a quick restore) and one for proper emergencies

Not that you even need to set it up like this, but more backups == better backups even if one is local for emergency "non-natural-disaster" restore.

@3246 it’s stories/situations like these where Cloudron can benefit the most by ironing out any bugs and optimizing things to account for all possible scenarios, user fault or otherwise.

Indeed, as @murgero said, it's not a priority for us.

@yeku said in AI on Cloudron:

@LoudLemur said in AI on Cloudron:

eople will not long from now be running Free Software, federated, self-hosted

I predict that eventually at least hundreds of millions of people will run FOSS/FLOSS. But there will still be proprietary software too.

Wouldn't that be wonderful?

Cloudron could make that a lot easier for people.

@girish said in Hetzner now offering some useful pre-built "Apps" for server instances.:

know who to contact in hetzner for this?

No, I'm sorry but I do not know whom to contact in Hetzner regarding this matter.

@robi
On that, I don't have the data or experience to talk.
But 100% sure you can't use wasabi latency, I think smb or better NFS should be a better option, but I'm not an expert.
and Using so much ram for it, im not big fun about it, but I would have to try it before to have a real feedback