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  • timconsidineT Offline
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    timconsidine
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    #1

    Apologies if this is bit of a noob question.
    I already use a VPN (ProtonVPN) on my desktop, laptop and phones. If I understand correctly, deploying a Cloudron OpenVPN instance will not offer much additional for device-->outside world.

    But I also want to connect securely and easily between computers in different offices. Currently for this I use Splashtop (paid commercial service) which does the job, but doesn't handle wake on lan very well. (I'm attributing that to Splashtop but maybe it's a local issue.)

    Will deploying a Cloudron OpenVPN allow me to connect between devices more easily (whether from countryA to countryB, or just from OfficeFloor3 to OfficeFloor1) ? And allow me to cease my Splashtop paid subscription.

    Does OpenVPN support wake-on-lan type functionality ? Or that's a function of the device OS ?
    BTW, all devices MAC and some Linux (ubuntu). No Windows.

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      wrote on last edited by luckow
      #2

      My typical use cases for OpenVPN on Cloudron are:

      • static IP (needed for restricted networks)
      • VPN from inside public Wifi infrastructure
      • Because of a German IP address, public German TV for my friends from Denmark

      (And yes: Your use case for a VPN connection between two networks works too.)
      To clarify my tests: I was able to "see" another VPN client from a remote location from my location through OpenVPN. If this is also true for complete networks, we have to ask around or try it by our own 🙂

      Pronouns: he/him | Primary language: German

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      • luckowL luckow

        My typical use cases for OpenVPN on Cloudron are:

        • static IP (needed for restricted networks)
        • VPN from inside public Wifi infrastructure
        • Because of a German IP address, public German TV for my friends from Denmark

        (And yes: Your use case for a VPN connection between two networks works too.)
        To clarify my tests: I was able to "see" another VPN client from a remote location from my location through OpenVPN. If this is also true for complete networks, we have to ask around or try it by our own 🙂

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        #3

        @luckow Thank you.
        Interesting point about getting a "cheap" way to get static IP.
        I'll give it a bash and test it out - thanks for the confidence push that it's worth trying - time is precious.

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          #4

          The LAN usecase should work really well, yeah, but I would be surprised if you could make wake-on-lan work : for it to work there has to be a device physically on the same network to send a magic-packet for the ethernet card to interpret and trigger wake up.

          There are some ways to do wake-on-lan relays stuff, I believe, but you would still have to have a computer awake on the network on which you want to wake another.

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            Wake-on-LAN is a hardware feature enabled in BIOS.

            The sleep state of the CPU has to be integrated with the network card which listens for the wake packets.

            So while a particular software may not be able to send a WoL packet, one can set up something that port-knocks on something that does. (Highly unusual)

            Conscious tech

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            • mehdiM mehdi

              The LAN usecase should work really well, yeah, but I would be surprised if you could make wake-on-lan work : for it to work there has to be a device physically on the same network to send a magic-packet for the ethernet card to interpret and trigger wake up.

              There are some ways to do wake-on-lan relays stuff, I believe, but you would still have to have a computer awake on the network on which you want to wake another.

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              timconsidine
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              @mehdi Thank you. Shame about wake-on-lan being local network only. I guess I can set up a wake/sleep schedule eg 8am-8pm so there is at least there is a known window. Or I can arrange for one device to never sleep and connect to that to wake others. Some playing around needed.

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              • robiR robi

                Wake-on-LAN is a hardware feature enabled in BIOS.

                The sleep state of the CPU has to be integrated with the network card which listens for the wake packets.

                So while a particular software may not be able to send a WoL packet, one can set up something that port-knocks on something that does. (Highly unusual)

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                @robi Thanks. Port-knocking sounds interesting to research. When time permits !

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