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Enabling Real Time Collaboration

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  • C Camille

    Hi,

    How can I enable real time collaboration in JupyterHub?
    The doc (https://jupyterlab.readthedocs.io/en/stable/user/rtc.html) says

    Editors are not collaborative by default; to activate it, start JupyterLab with the --collaborative flag.

    How can I do that in a Cloudron env?
    Thanks,
    Camille

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    jdaviescoates
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    @Camille does this help?

    https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/jupyterhub/#other-custom-configuration

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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    • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

      @Camille does this help?

      https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/jupyterhub/#other-custom-configuration

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      Camille
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      @jdaviescoates Thanks.
      It's not clear to me what parameters can be changed in /app/data/customconfig.py
      besides c.Spawner.mem_limit and c.DockerSpawner.container_image.
      I searched in https://jupyterhub.readthedocs.io/en/stable/search.html?q=collaborative but didn't find many clues.
      I'll try c.Spawner.cmd = 'jupyter-lab --collaborative' but that'll be mostly guesswork 😉

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      • C Camille

        @jdaviescoates Thanks.
        It's not clear to me what parameters can be changed in /app/data/customconfig.py
        besides c.Spawner.mem_limit and c.DockerSpawner.container_image.
        I searched in https://jupyterhub.readthedocs.io/en/stable/search.html?q=collaborative but didn't find many clues.
        I'll try c.Spawner.cmd = 'jupyter-lab --collaborative' but that'll be mostly guesswork 😉

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        @Camille I think the collaborative flag only works with BinderHub - https://github.com/jupyterhub/binderhub . With JupyterHub, I think https://github.com/jupyterhub/jupyterhub/issues/394 was the issue tracker task to fix this , but it didn't progress far.

        Also, to pass extra args, use something like this in customconfig.py:

        c.Spawner.environment = {
            'NOTEBOOK_ARGS': '--collaborative'
        }
        

        (this comes from https://github.com/jupyter/docker-stacks/blob/master/base-notebook/start-notebook.sh#L26 and https://github.com/jupyterhub/jupyterhub/blob/dcf21d53fd9e6c131a269550c0a46f08ca9df5bb/docs/source/reference/spawners.md#environment-variables-and-command-line-arguments

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        • girishG girish

          @Camille I think the collaborative flag only works with BinderHub - https://github.com/jupyterhub/binderhub . With JupyterHub, I think https://github.com/jupyterhub/jupyterhub/issues/394 was the issue tracker task to fix this , but it didn't progress far.

          Also, to pass extra args, use something like this in customconfig.py:

          c.Spawner.environment = {
              'NOTEBOOK_ARGS': '--collaborative'
          }
          

          (this comes from https://github.com/jupyter/docker-stacks/blob/master/base-notebook/start-notebook.sh#L26 and https://github.com/jupyterhub/jupyterhub/blob/dcf21d53fd9e6c131a269550c0a46f08ca9df5bb/docs/source/reference/spawners.md#environment-variables-and-command-line-arguments

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          Camille
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          Thanks @girish for all the pointers!

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          • C Camille

            Thanks @girish for all the pointers!

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            #6

            Reading https://github.com/jupyterhub/jupyterhub/issues/3578 and https://discourse.jupyter.org/t/jupyterhub-collaboration-and-tags/11259
            it seems that collaborative flag would also work with JupyterHub.
            It tried adding c.LabApp.collaborative = True in customconfig.py with no luck.
            I'll investigate more thouroughly later.

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            • C Camille

              Reading https://github.com/jupyterhub/jupyterhub/issues/3578 and https://discourse.jupyter.org/t/jupyterhub-collaboration-and-tags/11259
              it seems that collaborative flag would also work with JupyterHub.
              It tried adding c.LabApp.collaborative = True in customconfig.py with no luck.
              I'll investigate more thouroughly later.

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              girish
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              @Camille The sharing involves using this "token" for authentication which I think works only on Binder. I am not 100% sure about this though, documentation is very sparse.

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                So, from https://jupyter.org/binder , "BinderHub is a web application that allows users to create sharable, interactive, reproducible environments from code repositories" . Docs are here - https://binderhub.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ . There is says "BinderHub is a kubernetes-based cloud service that allows users to share reproducible interactive computing environments from code repositories." .

                I think we need to understand how all this ties into this "token" for collaboration.

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                • girishG girish

                  @Camille The sharing involves using this "token" for authentication which I think works only on Binder. I am not 100% sure about this though, documentation is very sparse.

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                  Camille
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                  Hi @girish Token authentication works great on our Cloudron JupyterHub. We can share notebooks fine but with no real time collaboration: we just get the usual overwrite problems.

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                  • C Camille

                    Hi @girish Token authentication works great on our Cloudron JupyterHub. We can share notebooks fine but with no real time collaboration: we just get the usual overwrite problems.

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                    girish
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                    @Camille Oh, that's interesting. Can you tell me how you enabled it and how you made it work ? (i.e just shared notebooks without real time)

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                    • girishG girish

                      @Camille Oh, that's interesting. Can you tell me how you enabled it and how you made it work ? (i.e just shared notebooks without real time)

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                      @girish Actually, I'm not really sure how we got there 😉
                      I have installed the https://github.com/jupyterlab-contrib/jupyterlab-link-share extension, which kind of works, but we have to manually add the token to the URL it provides.
                      So maybe it enabled settings in the background.
                      I will try to redo it from a fresh install and keep you posted.

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                        Adding the following to /app/data/customconfig.py worked for me:

                        c.Spawner.args = ['--collaborative']
                        

                        You also need to run /app/code/remove_notebook_containers.py after making changes.

                        For a list of parameters check out: https://jupyterhub.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api/spawner.html

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