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  • girishG girish

    @ei8fdb said in Support for DoT (DNS-over-tls):

    @girish Do you have any advice on setting this up on Android devices? I've been trying but no luck yet. Thanks.

    So, all I had to do was Settings -> Network & Internet -> Advanced -> Private DNS. There in the'Private DNS provider hostname, I just enter my AdGuard installation hostname like adguard.domain.com . That's pretty much it. Note that you cannot put an IP address here since Android requires the cert name and the hostname to match.

    For the above to work:

    • In Cloudron dashboard -> Adguard -> Location section. Do you see DNS over TLS (DoT) Port enabled ?

      ae54f23a-c98e-408b-b1b4-1994c3eb94cd-image.png

    • If you are on a home sever, the firewall needs to port forward the above port (853 by default) to the Cloudron VM.

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    @girish Thanks Girish for your clear explanation.
    One question from my side.
    Do you restrict source ip addresses to port:853 in your firewall, from the outside in? Or do you restrict ip addresses in AdGuard?
    For security reasons......

    Also does port:53 have to opened up as well in the firewall for this to work? Or only port:853?

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      @girish Thanks Girish for your clear explanation.
      One question from my side.
      Do you restrict source ip addresses to port:853 in your firewall, from the outside in? Or do you restrict ip addresses in AdGuard?
      For security reasons......

      Also does port:53 have to opened up as well in the firewall for this to work? Or only port:853?

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      @DanTheMan said in Support for DoT (DNS-over-tls):

      Do you restrict source ip addresses to port:853 in your firewall, from the outside in? Or do you restrict ip addresses in AdGuard?

      It's best to restrict source IP in the firewall, if this is possible in your situation. To keep the IP range flexible, you can geo lock the IP range to your region. This does still make it slightly vulnerable. My router (synology) supports geolocking built-in.

      For security reasons......
      Also does port:53 have to opened up as well in the firewall for this to work? Or only port:853?

      Only port 853 is needed.

      Port 53 is needed if you use it as a DNS server, which AFAIK Android does not support setting anymore!.

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      • girishG girish

        @ei8fdb said in Support for DoT (DNS-over-tls):

        @girish Do you have any advice on setting this up on Android devices? I've been trying but no luck yet. Thanks.

        So, all I had to do was Settings -> Network & Internet -> Advanced -> Private DNS. There in the'Private DNS provider hostname, I just enter my AdGuard installation hostname like adguard.domain.com . That's pretty much it. Note that you cannot put an IP address here since Android requires the cert name and the hostname to match.

        For the above to work:

        • In Cloudron dashboard -> Adguard -> Location section. Do you see DNS over TLS (DoT) Port enabled ?

          ae54f23a-c98e-408b-b1b4-1994c3eb94cd-image.png

        • If you are on a home sever, the firewall needs to port forward the above port (853 by default) to the Cloudron VM.

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        @girish said in Support for DoT (DNS-over-tls):

        If you are on a home sever, the firewall needs to port forward the above port (853 by default) to the Cloudron VM.

        Aha! This is probably the reason it's not working. I wasn't aware of that setting. But now I do see it (and its enabled).

        I'll forward that port in my firewall. Thanks @girish

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        • girishG girish

          @DanTheMan said in Support for DoT (DNS-over-tls):

          Do you restrict source ip addresses to port:853 in your firewall, from the outside in? Or do you restrict ip addresses in AdGuard?

          It's best to restrict source IP in the firewall, if this is possible in your situation. To keep the IP range flexible, you can geo lock the IP range to your region. This does still make it slightly vulnerable. My router (synology) supports geolocking built-in.

          For security reasons......
          Also does port:53 have to opened up as well in the firewall for this to work? Or only port:853?

          Only port 853 is needed.

          Port 53 is needed if you use it as a DNS server, which AFAIK Android does not support setting anymore!.

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          wrote on last edited by khadanja
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          @girish I'm having the same issue. My Cloudron instance is in the cloud. How to forward port 853 or open?
          Also I see this in AdGuard Encryption settings and logs below.
          bf810372-b9cc-4379-9831-2ed393d12d9b-image.png
          Jul 06 15:37:48 2022/07/06 03:37:48.610611 [error] handling tcp: reading msg: reading len: remote error: tls: unknown certificate authority

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            @girish I'm having the same issue. My Cloudron instance is in the cloud. How to forward port 853 or open?
            Also I see this in AdGuard Encryption settings and logs below.
            bf810372-b9cc-4379-9831-2ed393d12d9b-image.png
            Jul 06 15:37:48 2022/07/06 03:37:48.610611 [error] handling tcp: reading msg: reading len: remote error: tls: unknown certificate authority

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            @khadanja said in Support for DoT (DNS-over-tls):

            @girish I'm having the same issue. My Cloudron instance is in the cloud. How to forward port 853 or open?

            This is automatically opened on the server itself. Do you have a Cloud firewall or some security group in front of the server?

            It seems the cert is self-signed, are your certs OK on the browser?

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            • girishG girish

              @khadanja said in Support for DoT (DNS-over-tls):

              @girish I'm having the same issue. My Cloudron instance is in the cloud. How to forward port 853 or open?

              This is automatically opened on the server itself. Do you have a Cloud firewall or some security group in front of the server?

              It seems the cert is self-signed, are your certs OK on the browser?

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              @girish @girish Issue was DNS proxy option enabled in Cloudflare. Works if I set it to DNS only. Is there any way of making it work with proxy option enabled? I can access the admin interface with Cloudflare proxy enabled but Private DNS doesn’t work on devices.

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              • K khadanja

                @girish @girish Issue was DNS proxy option enabled in Cloudflare. Works if I set it to DNS only. Is there any way of making it work with proxy option enabled? I can access the admin interface with Cloudflare proxy enabled but Private DNS doesn’t work on devices.

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                @khadanja It won't work with cloudflare proxying since cloudflare only proxies http and https.

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                • girishG girish

                  @khadanja It won't work with cloudflare proxying since cloudflare only proxies http and https.

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                  @girish Thanks As a workaround using DoH works with proxy enabled on Android rising Intra app and on iPhone using config profile but looks like Private DNS only supports tls.

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                  • girishG girish

                    @khadanja It won't work with cloudflare proxying since cloudflare only proxies http and https.

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                    @girish OpenVPN also doesn’t work with proxying. At the moment I have only AdGuard and OpenVPN installed and DNS server in OpenVPN is set to adguard’s private IP. Works without Cloudflare proxying but issues with proxy turned on.

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                    • K khadanja

                      @girish OpenVPN also doesn’t work with proxying. At the moment I have only AdGuard and OpenVPN installed and DNS server in OpenVPN is set to adguard’s private IP. Works without Cloudflare proxying but issues with proxy turned on.

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                      @khadanja Indeed, OpenVPN uses a custom port and does not run over http(s)

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