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Insecure KDF iterations settings

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  • potemkin_aiP potemkin_ai

    Vaultwarden is installed by default with non-secure kdf iterations settings - would you please, set it up to 600.000 as a minimum please? Ideally - have it set up till 2.000.000

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    @potemkin_ai said in Insecure KDF iterations settings:

    600.000 as a minimum please?

    Yeah, is the default on Bitwarden according to https://bitwarden.com/help/kdf-algorithms/

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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    • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

      @potemkin_ai said in Insecure KDF iterations settings:

      600.000 as a minimum please?

      Yeah, is the default on Bitwarden according to https://bitwarden.com/help/kdf-algorithms/

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      @jdaviescoates it was not in case of my server setup, and I didn't touch a thing since it was installed!

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        One more thing:

        You are using a plain text ADMIN_TOKEN which is insecure.
        Please generate a secure Argon2 PHC string by using vaultwarden hash or argon2.

        Admin token - which enables full access - is indeed stored plain text and accessible for cloudron admin.

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          here is an official doc, just in case: https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden/wiki/Enabling-admin-page#secure-the-admin_token

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            In my server atleast, config.json has

              "password_iterations": 600000,
            

            I don't remember changing this

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              The default install has 600k, so maybe I am missing something with this report.

              image.png

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              • potemkin_aiP potemkin_ai

                One more thing:

                You are using a plain text ADMIN_TOKEN which is insecure.
                Please generate a secure Argon2 PHC string by using vaultwarden hash or argon2.

                Admin token - which enables full access - is indeed stored plain text and accessible for cloudron admin.

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                @potemkin_ai said in Insecure KDF iterations settings:

                Admin token - which enables full access - is indeed stored plain text and accessible for cloudron admin.

                I think you have to regenerate it like https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/vaultwarden/#admin which already uses argon

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                • girishG girish

                  The default install has 600k, so maybe I am missing something with this report.

                  image.png

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                  @girish said in Insecure KDF iterations settings:

                  The default install has 60k, so maybe I am missing something with this report.

                  The default Cloudron install (now) has even 600k, not only 60k.
                  But I think it wasn't always like this (see https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/11194/vaultwarden-security-enhancement-tip/) and @potemkin_ai has an old install?

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                  • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                    @girish said in Insecure KDF iterations settings:

                    The default install has 60k, so maybe I am missing something with this report.

                    The default Cloudron install (now) has even 600k, not only 60k.
                    But I think it wasn't always like this (see https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/11194/vaultwarden-security-enhancement-tip/) and @potemkin_ai has an old install?

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                    @necrevistonnezr said in Insecure KDF iterations settings:

                    The default Cloudron install (now) has even 600k, not only 60k.

                    ah, even in my screenshot it is 600k. I misread it!

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                    • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                      @girish said in Insecure KDF iterations settings:

                      The default install has 60k, so maybe I am missing something with this report.

                      The default Cloudron install (now) has even 600k, not only 60k.
                      But I think it wasn't always like this (see https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/11194/vaultwarden-security-enhancement-tip/) and @potemkin_ai has an old install?

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                      @necrevistonnezr my installation is quite old - that's correct. Thanks for checking in!

                      @girish , thank you for the doc's reference! Guess it might make sense to stress that during the installation, as well as an offer to increase KDF up to 2 mln (as per Bitwarden docs as well).

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