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Agate+ (dual protocol server to serve gemini/http from one source)

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  • DidierMalenfantD DidierMalenfant

    Testing it now...

    • You need a chmod +x cld.sh in the repo.
    • The installation never completes for me. It gets stuck at Waiting for propagation of newsite.malenfant.dev even though the DNS is updated. The app doesn't seem to launch.

    Could be something with the DNS on cloudflare... Log shows:

    Jul 16 17:28:25 box:dns/waitfordns resolveIp: Checking A for newsite.malenfant.dev at 162.159.38.40
    Jul 16 17:28:25 box:dns/waitfordns resolveIp: No A. Checking CNAME for newsite.malenfant.dev at 162.159.38.40
    Jul 16 17:28:25 box:dns/waitfordns isChangeSynced: NS davina.ns.cloudflare.com (162.159.38.40) errored when resolve newsite.malenfant.dev (A): Error: queryCname ENODATA newsite.malenfant.dev
    

    but if I ping newsite.malenfant.dev from the command line it gets resolved correctly... odd.

    Could it be that the domain is hardcoded in cld.sh?

    # Generate self-signed wildcard certificate for all subdomains
    echo "Generating self-signed wildcard certificate for *.appx.uk..."
    # Extract the base domain (appx.uk) from CLOUDRON_APP_DOMAIN
    BASE_DOMAIN="appx.uk"
    WILDCARD_DOMAIN="*.${BASE_DOMAIN}"
    
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    timconsidine
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    #22

    @DidierMalenfant I fixed that hard-coding ๐Ÿ‘

    I was struggling with self-signed certs for the scenario where a cloudron users wants to deploy multiple instances of agate+, e.g. for different sites on different subdomains. Easy for one domain, not so easy for multiple.

    Cloudrono handles this quite easily, but gemini protocol is quite tight on certs, and my 2nd/3rd test instances were failing.

    So I have to make a wildcard self-signed cert to handle any subdomain like xxxx.example.com.

    There is still some issue, because while xxxx.example.com and zzzz.example.com will be fine under this version, probably aaaa.test.com will not be. Need to do some more testing.

    Uploading fixed file to repo in a mo.

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      wrote last edited by
      #23

      Tried just now with a new download. we had an error:

      App is being installed.
      
       => Queued ...
       => Deleting old containers
       => Registering location agateplus.example.com ................
       => Downloading image .....................................
      
      App installation error: Installation failed: Unable to pull image docker_registry.domain.tld/cloudron-agate-plus:v2. registry error: {"reason":"server error","statusCode":500,"json":null}
      

      During the course of testing this, we tried several ports (as it seemed that the default was occupied, perhaps by the previous effort, which was still using it.) We also tried a few sub-domains, as sometimes the port was accepted but the subdomain was already in use eg agateplus.example.com, agateplus2.example.com, agateplus3.example.com.

      After we eventually manage to get agate+ running, how do we go about closing those ports again and stopping the "phantom" use of the sub-domains, which never worked anyway?

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      • L LoudLemur

        Tried just now with a new download. we had an error:

        App is being installed.
        
         => Queued ...
         => Deleting old containers
         => Registering location agateplus.example.com ................
         => Downloading image .....................................
        
        App installation error: Installation failed: Unable to pull image docker_registry.domain.tld/cloudron-agate-plus:v2. registry error: {"reason":"server error","statusCode":500,"json":null}
        

        During the course of testing this, we tried several ports (as it seemed that the default was occupied, perhaps by the previous effort, which was still using it.) We also tried a few sub-domains, as sometimes the port was accepted but the subdomain was already in use eg agateplus.example.com, agateplus2.example.com, agateplus3.example.com.

        After we eventually manage to get agate+ running, how do we go about closing those ports again and stopping the "phantom" use of the sub-domains, which never worked anyway?

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        wrote last edited by
        #24

        @LoudLemur couple of points raised :

        1. cloudron only allows one assigned port like 1965 to one app. Once done, it's occupied/blocked. You need to uninstall the deployed app to clear it.
          From CLI :
          cloudron uninstall --app app.domain.tld
          Or from the app dashboard 'Uninstall' option

        2. you gave a code shot which mentions "agateplus.example.com". I'm guessing you obscure the actual app URL which is fine and wise. But it also refers to a docker registry. That's an example.
          Just to clarify, did you build the app and deploy it to your registry ?
          That's necessary for custom apps, and that's probably why the 'unable to pull' message was generated.

        I am still tweaking the handling of multiple deployments. Cloudron supports it, and agateplus too, but I am resolving some content caching issues.

        Advice for now is stick to one deployment until I solve the cache issue.

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          wrote last edited by
          #25

          Latest update works! Thanks for the fixes.

          I'm going to play with it for a bit but I'll leave a few more things I noticed in case you want to address those too:

          • If you do git add --chmod=+x cld.sh locally you can then commit the executable flag with your repo and skip a step in the README.
          • The cld.sh script should probably have a set -e line at the top (after the #!/bin/bash) to make sure the script stop executing if something goes wrong with one of the commands.
          • Currently everything in /app/data is owned by root and I believe agate itself is launched as a root owned app. It's probably safer to make all the files in in /app/data owned by cloudron:cloudron and launch programs with /usr/local/bin/gosu cloudron:cloudron to run as the cloudron user. I might be off here but that was my understanding of recommended behavior looking at the documentation. Someone else can deny or confirm.

          Great job on the app!

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            @DidierMalenfant ๐Ÿ‘ Good points, thank you, will get on to them.

            I'm needing to review deployment of multiple instances as it is not working 100%, but hoping to find a "cunning plan".

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              #27

              nearly...

              
              App installation error: Installation failed: Unable to pull image docker_registry.domain.tld/cloudron-agate-plus:v2. registry error: {"reason":"server error","statusCode":500,"json":null}
              
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                Is that really the address that youโ€™re pulling the image from ? Or you spoofed it to hide the real one in an internet forum (searched and exposed by the great satan google) ?

                If itโ€™s the real one, it will never work.
                You need to build the image locally
                Push it to your docker repo
                Then pull it from there.

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                • timconsidineT timconsidine

                  Is that really the address that youโ€™re pulling the image from ? Or you spoofed it to hide the real one in an internet forum (searched and exposed by the great satan google) ?

                  If itโ€™s the real one, it will never work.
                  You need to build the image locally
                  Push it to your docker repo
                  Then pull it from there.

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                  @timconsidine ha! thanks, tim. will keep trying.

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                    Significant update to be uploaded to git.cloudron.io repo
                    Hopefully I've fixed the issues about installing multiple instances of this app.
                    Further testing underway before upload.

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                      wrote last edited by timconsidine
                      #31

                      Phew, that was a wild ride!
                      Major update and refactor of the Agate+ app completed.
                      Updates pushed to https://git.cloudron.io/timconsidine/cloudron-agate-plus

                      WHAT CHANGED :

                      • overcame significant routing challenges arising from combination of (a) gemini clients only work on port 1965 unless you specify the port in the address (gem.domain1.tld:19xx), and (b) Cloudron does not support hostname (SNI) checking for a tcpPort

                      • multiple instances of Agate+ can now be deployed (e.g. gem.domain1.tld, diamond.domain1.tld, ruby.domain2.tld) and work fully (famous last words ๐Ÿ˜†)

                      • certificate creation majorly simplified

                      CHALLENGES

                      • the original Agate app supports virtual hosts, so why take a different approach ? Because in that case Cloudron features of managing users access to apps and their content would be compromised ( user would get access to all sites in the virtual host)

                      • gemini clients (Lagrange, Deedum, Amfora) will ONLY connect to port 1965 unless you put the port in the address (gem.domain1.tld:1966). I think this is cumbersome and unacceptable for daily usage.

                      • Cloudron does not currently support hostname/SNI checking of traffic on a tcpPort, just sends all to port 1965, because that's what the client instructed. But without the hostname check, gemini client requests go to the wrong instance.

                      SOLUTION
                      A little bit "creative".

                      • Agate+ provides its own proxy in the app

                      • the first "master" deployment on port 1965 not only serves out content to clients for its own domain (gem.domain1.tld), but also runs the proxy so, when a client makes a non-port-specified request to ruby.domain2.tld and Cloudron sends this to 1965 because that's what the client said to do, the proxy fetches the correct content from ruby.domain2.tld (running on e.g. port 1966) and returns it to the client, even though the user didn't specify 1966 in the address and the client did not request it from 1966. Cool, hey?

                      • additional deployments of Agate+ recognise that they are not the first Agate+ (i.e. not running on port 1965) and function as pure gemini servers (in fact, proxy features actually removed automatically on deployment)

                      • there is a small setup step for additional deployments, but I think I have made this really easy : see POSTINSTALL.md

                      Is this complex ?
                      Yes. No. Well, a little, but not really, unless you really want to deep dive into it. Otherwise just follow the instructions.

                      Is this essential ?
                      Yes. Multiple Gemini servers simply cannot function on a single Cloudron instance (common IP address) without some form of reverse proxy because Gemini clients will ONLY send to port 1965 if no port is put in the address. And Cloudron does not yet support hostname/SNI routing of tcpPort (only nginx https traffic supports hostname routing).

                      I think this is the neatest solution to a potentially incompatible set of operating conditions (gemini client behaviour, lack of Cloudron support for hostname tcpPort routing).

                      I will be testing more, but you can never have enough testing, so feedback much appreciated.

                      Agate/gemini protocol has got me excited about potential uses, hopefully it can help others too.

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