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Backup is failing for UpTime Kuma on 9.0.15

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  • jamesJ james

    Hello @potemkin_ai

    @potemkin_ai said in Backup is failing for UpTime Kuma on 9.0.15:

    It's UpTime Kuma

    Okay.
    I think this might be an issue with SQLITE that is used by Uptime Kuma.
    How many hosts do you monitor with Uptime Kuma?
    I have the suspicion that while creating the SQLITE backup the file changes and causes this error.

    @potemkin_ai said in Backup is failing for UpTime Kuma on 9.0.15:

    Just in case - the forum software keeps changing my e-mail notification settings. I'm returning to e-mail notifications for the topic I've created for a second or third time now and it keeps reseting to notifications only.

    Could this be related to your profile notification setting overwriting the individual topic notification setting?
    You have configured:
    6af45965-c288-4e78-af6f-fb1de8aa859a-image.png
    Or do you mean this setting is getting overwritten again and again?

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    @james said in Backup is failing for UpTime Kuma on 9.0.15:

    Or do you mean this setting is getting overwritten again and again?

    yeah - I always have my settings setup in a way, that I would be getting an e-mail for the threads I'm participating and from time to time I'm finding myself not getting those updates - going to check the settings and they are again in 'Notification only'.

    It's sporadic, but I'm quite sure I didn't change them manually (too lazy / busy for that - I don't even remember where they are in the profile).

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    • jamesJ james

      Hello @potemkin_ai

      @potemkin_ai said in Backup is failing for UpTime Kuma on 9.0.15:

      It's UpTime Kuma

      Okay.
      I think this might be an issue with SQLITE that is used by Uptime Kuma.
      How many hosts do you monitor with Uptime Kuma?
      I have the suspicion that while creating the SQLITE backup the file changes and causes this error.

      @potemkin_ai said in Backup is failing for UpTime Kuma on 9.0.15:

      Just in case - the forum software keeps changing my e-mail notification settings. I'm returning to e-mail notifications for the topic I've created for a second or third time now and it keeps reseting to notifications only.

      Could this be related to your profile notification setting overwriting the individual topic notification setting?
      You have configured:
      6af45965-c288-4e78-af6f-fb1de8aa859a-image.png
      Or do you mean this setting is getting overwritten again and again?

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      @james said in Backup is failing for UpTime Kuma on 9.0.15:

      How many hosts do you monitor with Uptime Kuma?

      not much - like 20 max; UpTime Kuma on itself works just fine.

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        Hello @potemkin_ai
        Is this issue still persistent? If so, can you please try to stop the Uptime Kuma app once and start it again and attempt a backup?
        Want to make sure this is not a file handling issue with the SQLITE.
        In the sense of, while trying to back the SQLITE file, it gets changed and thus messes up the process in some way.

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          Yep - it does.
          Stop & start didn't help, unfortunately.

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            If you still get the same docker error about an already existing container with the name sqlite-<appid>, can you check with the docker cli if some dead container exists and if so, if you just remove that, it starts working?

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            • nebulonN nebulon

              If you still get the same docker error about an already existing container with the name sqlite-<appid>, can you check with the docker cli if some dead container exists and if so, if you just remove that, it starts working?

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              @nebulon there seems to be none of the dead ones:

              ubuntu@cloudron:~$ sudo docker ps -a | grep sqlite | wc -l
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              ubuntu@cloudron:~$ sudo docker ps -a | grep sqlite
              bbb52ef9e686   cloudron/louislam.uptimekuma.app:202511081423470000       "sqlite3 /app/data/d…"   2 weeks ago   Created                                                                                                                                                                sqlite-be0be218-57bf-427b-abb6-b7660943eaf6
              

              There are not that much non-running containers - only 2 nextcloud workers with exit(0) and another service, that I have stopped explicitely.

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                So yeah looks like there is a dangling container with the conflicting name sqlite-be0be218-57bf-427b-abb6-b7660943eaf6, not sure why that wasn't cleanly exiting, but it exists but stopped, hence no new one for another backup can be created.

                The fix here would probably be to purge that with docker rm bbb52ef9e686 and then the backup should work again. Before you do this, maybe check with docker logs bbb52ef9e686 if there is anything useful, why it possibly failed.

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                  Thank you, that fixed the issue.
                  There been no logs in the container.

                  Any ideas what is the nature of the sqlite container for uptime kuma? I've been under impression that sqlite requires no server side...

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                    That is true, no server is required for sqlite, however to make a correct and consistent backup, one cannot just copy the sqlite file on disk, as data might not have been flushed fully to disk. This is why the localstorage addon in Cloudron has a way to signal the system, which file is an sqlite database and the backup will spin up a container to make a proper database dump. See https://docs.cloudron.io/packaging/addons#localstorage

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                    • nebulonN nebulon

                      That is true, no server is required for sqlite, however to make a correct and consistent backup, one cannot just copy the sqlite file on disk, as data might not have been flushed fully to disk. This is why the localstorage addon in Cloudron has a way to signal the system, which file is an sqlite database and the backup will spin up a container to make a proper database dump. See https://docs.cloudron.io/packaging/addons#localstorage

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                      @nebulon thank you. And yes - I understand why the work-around required. If you don't mind sharing the source code to read the logic exactly?

                      I've been wondering on the best way to achieve that, but never seen any good practical approach - would love to see how you are approaching that, without a container shutdown, if you don't mind sharing of course.

                      If that's too complicated - never mind and please, feel free to close the issue - the question now is purely to satisfy my curiosity.

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