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Nextcloud Hub/18

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    • girishG Offline
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      girish
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      wrote on last edited by
      #8

      My understanding is that this is not part of Nextcloud main product but part of a separate installation mechanism called Nextcloud Hub. From what I can tell, this won't affect Cloudron installation. We will continue to support the "separated" app installation as we do now.

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        roru2k20
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        What happens if you installed Collabora as Office-Tool?

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        • nebulonN Offline
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          nebulon
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          #10

          I did some initial test with Nextcloud 18 and it is actually mostly the same as before, however what they call "hub" is an umbrella term for a few components together. This can already be done on Cloudron anyways since one can install more components like onlyoffice or Collabora and connect them to Nextcloud.

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            smilebasti
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            #11

            As Nextcloud Hub 18 is released, when does the Update come to Cloudron?
            Or should I switch in the Nextcloud App from Cloudron update to Auto update?

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              nebulon
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              wrote on last edited by girish
              #12

              It will be available soon. From our experience with last major Nextcloud update, we are on purpose not jumping right in, since last time there were a couple of annoying regressions.

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                nebulon
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                #13

                We have now pushed the update to Nextcloud 18. Please keep in mind that Nextcloud Hub is not a separate app or so, but just a collection of installed Nextcloud addons/apps. On Cloudron one can already install Onlyoffice to work together with Nextcloud.

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                • necrevistonnezrN Offline
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                  wrote on last edited by necrevistonnezr
                  #14

                  Great, thanks!

                  What happens if you have currently NC 17 and OnlyOffice installed on Cloudron - do we need to reconfigure things? Can we uninstall OnlyOffice?

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                    Nothing should have changed, the OnlyOffice addon/app in Nextcloud may have to be updated and re-enabled.

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                    • nebulonN nebulon

                      Nothing should have changed, the OnlyOffice addon/app in Nextcloud may have to be updated and re-enabled.

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                      @nebulon said in Nextcloud Hub/18:

                      Nothing should have changed, the OnlyOffice addon/app in Nextcloud may have to be updated and re-enabled.

                      But we still need the separate cloudron OnlyOffice app, correct?

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                        Yes that is correct

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                        • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                          @nebulon said in Nextcloud Hub/18:

                          Nothing should have changed, the OnlyOffice addon/app in Nextcloud may have to be updated and re-enabled.

                          But we still need the separate cloudron OnlyOffice app, correct?

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                          @necrevistonnezr :
                          No you don't need a ONLYOFFICE installation.
                          Install the follwing:

                          • https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/documentserver_community - ONLYOFFICE
                          • https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/onlyoffice - Connector

                          If you have the ONLYOFFICE connector already installed, delete all data (link to the server). Nextcloud will configure everything (have a look at the GitHub: https://github.com/nextcloud/documentserver_community).

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                            @necrevistonnezr :
                            No you don't need a ONLYOFFICE installation.
                            Install the follwing:

                            • https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/documentserver_community - ONLYOFFICE
                            • https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/onlyoffice - Connector

                            If you have the ONLYOFFICE connector already installed, delete all data (link to the server). Nextcloud will configure everything (have a look at the GitHub: https://github.com/nextcloud/documentserver_community).

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                            @gloes Thanks! That worked as described. I can open and edit documents without the extra OnlyOffice installation in Cloudron.

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                              nebulon
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                              @gloes nice, thanks for clarifying this!

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                                Interesting. How does this work? The apache/php app spawns a node process? OnlyOffice source code is now part of the backup? So many questions.

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                                  Can confirm this works. The whole plugin is around 709M which will be part of the backup. It seems that the whole app is basically just frontend js, so we don't need a separate server as such.

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                                    timka
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                                    #23

                                    This is very interesting. Is there a difference comparing security/ speed/ future support?

                                    I totally don't mind which one to use. 😊

                                    Thank you for all your work 👍

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                                      I note that on https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/documentserver_community it states:

                                      The community document server is designed to make it easy to get OnlyOffice running in a Nextcloud instance without the need to setup an external document server, the community document server does not support all features of the official OnlyOffice document server and does not provide the same performance and scalability. (bold added)

                                      And I'm guessing that the Cloudron app at https://cloudron.io/store/com.onlyoffice.coudronapp.html installs the full version? Is that right @nebulon @girish ?

                                      So the method described by @gloes (thanks!) works, but perhaps does not have as the same features, performance and scalability?

                                      So the current method of installing both Nextcloud and ONLYOFFICE Cloudron apps may still be best?

                                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                        necrevistonnezr
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                                        Please update the app to 18.0.1., lots of fixes.

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                                          nebulon
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                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          The update is already rolled out. We just do it slowly for Nextcloud since in the past, Nextcloud updates caused lots of support requests on our side.

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                                          • nebulonN nebulon

                                            The update is already rolled out. We just do it slowly for Nextcloud since in the past, Nextcloud updates caused lots of support requests on our side.

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                                            necrevistonnezr
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                                            @nebulon said in Nextcloud Hub/18:

                                            The update is already rolled out. We just do it slowly for Nextcloud since in the past, Nextcloud updates caused lots of support requests on our side.

                                            I'd rather hurry, there are security advisories out: https://adv-archiv.dfn-cert.de/adv/2020-0324/

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