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@timconsidine point being, if there are companies out there that are doing this exact thing, offering the core functionality (which in cloudrons case, would be downloading applications, allowing for openid, LDAP, user management, easy updates, etc) then I don't see why cloudron wouldn't be able to do that without perpetual licensing.
IMO subscription should only come from cloud installations where work has to be done on cloudrons part.
because of course, the cloud providers are getting money a month to run cloudron instances, so I can understand cloudron wanting a piece of that pi.
but if i'm hosting on prem, I shouldn't have to pay a hundred dollars a year just to install a few applications.
keep in mind, that person is already paying for internet, electricity, and a few other things around these parts.
they don't (or sometimes, can't) pay for another subscription on top of other payments.
gotta keep the lights going somehow...

@timconsidine in that case, how is negate able to do this?
keep in mind, they cell physical appliances with PFSense plus built right into the thing .you just login to your account, and boom. yo have lifetime updates for as long as the device is active.
you get updates, and commercial software for the price of 1 appliance.
same goes with unifi dream machine pro, you get the product, it works.
for both, it seams the only subscription comes from cloud based solutions, which you can do on your own anyway.
for example, if you wanna run netgate on your own hardware (I know that's not cloud) and/or you would like to use a cloud service, you have to pay up whatever that cost is.
and cloud identity management? yeah, I don'tk now if I need that, I can do that on my own.
cloudron could make optional subscription based moddles. for example, cloud, and/or other functions that require more effect on cloudrons part. the core functionality shouldn't have to be a manual thing, just a one-time purchase.
for example, you could provide a support contract which allows for commercial support (a direct call) that is as close to immediate as it can get. we can leave forum and email alone, it's fine as it is.
if netgate and ubiquiti is not having a problem doing this, I don't think cloudron will either.

@WiseMetalhead then let's leave the door to both opened. because for some, one-time purchase is better.
we can leave the door for yearly purchases opened, while also having this feature for prepetual licensing

first off, cloudron should do this because some people may not want to, or have the budget to pay monthly/yearly.
also, keeping in mind you're already paying for internet, possibly the cloud server you're using, and other factors.
second, I think cloudron accounts should be optional. also, not necessarily. cloudrons backup system can work so that the server/hardware is limited. alternatively, that server should only have to connect to an account once and be done with.
th8ird, i'd support paying around $500/or more. cloudron is pretty good, so I don't mind paying for things that run the way I want them to.

hi!
cloudron should have a perpetual licensing feature meaning you pay once for the subscriptions, and then you never pay again.
alternatively, cloudron should have an appliance, or a server you can purchase, with cloudron software supplyed in, and then you get lifetime subscription. it would never have to connect to a cloudron account, as some people like myself like things to be local. or, it should only have to connect once, and then never again.
some people don't have enough money to pay yearly, or want a way to save some of their money...
I know netgate works similarly. you pay once for the hardware, you get PFSense plus for as long as that appliance is active, with lifetime support/updates, with the exception of technical support (which is understandable) so cloudron should do something similar...

o good to know. nevertheless we should be able to host web VMs on cloudron

I see we haven't made much progress n this...
well i'm glad it's at least being considered...

hello:
I would like to be able to login to cloudron with PIV/PKI login with a smart card with no password.
if you don't know what it is, here it is from yubiko

I see there are people that would like this idea. I like it too. and I hope it gets implemented

hello:
I would like to run web VMs directly from cloudron, so I think there should be something like qemu for cloudron.
it could run with https running on something like spice HTML5
you should also check these out.
https://nashcentral.duckdns.org/projects/vmlab.tar.gz
https://github.com/freedesktop/spice-html5
I think this could be used to deploy qemu on cloudron in order to run web based VMs

so a new update it seams.
something tells so not much of an update, but I decided to try something.
so I work with a product called bitdefender.
I don't know why I didn't think of this earlier...
so I basically told bitdefender scamio to look at this image, which was obviously an email, that same email...
and it actually gave me this...
It's a scam
You're dealing with an extortion scam. Scammers might falsely accuse you of illegal activities or threaten to release embarrassing information. Often, they claim to have explicit photos or your passwords. Don't panic—these threats are usually baseless. They're just trying to scare you into acting without thinking.
Safety tips:
Verify sender: Check the sender's information to ensure it is from a legitimate source.
Protect personal data: Be cautious when sharing personal info online.
Use security measures: Keep computer security up to date and avoid clicking on unknown links.
so that was good...
if any of you wonna take a look, here it is!
it's a product I used for a while, and i'm surprised I didn't use it for this purpose earlier...
it's been 1 of my favorite scam detection products

so here is a new, and possibly the final update.
the situation has not worsened, and turns out that I believe he as blackmailed.
so i'm happy to report that the hack was pretty much false.
soundsl Ike this guy just wanted some clout or some money.
I have no ferther intensions of sharing his Bitcoin wallet information, if you want to see that head into the first post on this thread.
but I think we can consider this closed.

this guy actually sounds stupid

I also scanned the IP for more stuff. I found he had ports opened on his server.
22/SSH, 80/HTTP, 443/HTTP, 4041/HTTP, 8301/UNKNOWN, 9113/HTTP, 9180/HTTP, 9999/HTTP, 11752/HTTP

now I noticed that fortinet, at very least, has went on to block this IP address and has categorized it as a malicious website, if you go here and check out that on the IP by searching 185.155.184.184 on the search URL bar

so the IP I found out was hosting several dating sites/domains, which i'm sure are all fishing domains by every count. he's pulling them out like pulling out 100 cups of water, and he has hundreds of these sites lieiing around on the same IP

apologies, wrong thread. I deleted that post I just made

braille displays cost 2much

@necrevistonnezr said in how I caught a hacker trying to (or may have) hacked into 1 of my colleagues old accounts.:

@adisonverlice2 said in how I caught a hacker trying to (or may have) hacked into 1 of my colleagues old accounts.:

fuckin hell, they could've even just made their own OS, and taken whatever it is that they don't want in the update out. not that hard y'all...sure, the keysoft programs get updated, but the OS itself does not. i'm disappointed

Isn’t Apple pretty good in this area? https://support.apple.com/en-om/guide/iphone/iph73b8c43/ios

they're ok at it, but not great. the braillenote has braille features. the iPhone you have to connect a braille display