@austin Yeah... I would use Surfer.

Just to add context to my comment :
I have 45 apps running on my Cloudron (I am sure others have even more).
<5 minute installs vs 2-3 hours 'conventionally' : 45 times. That's a lot of time and grey hair saved.
Normally I would need multiple servers to run that for segregation, so the Cloudron monthly-equiv fee is off-set by saving on multiple VPS.

I totally get that non-profits have a duty and a need to keep costs down.
But that's exactly what Cloudron does.

Cloudron is truly cost-effective and cost-minimising.
Cloudron is the only tech cost that I'm genuinely happy to carry.
And they stand out a mile vs the rest of the industry in terms of quality, kind and constructive support.

But @girish and @nebulon : that doesn't mean you can increase the price !! 😁

@onlybro That seems more like a phone issue to me, as I don't think apps can change people's networks without notifying them / requesting approval first. Let alone the difference between 3G and 4G which is ultimately using the same cellular connection from a phones point of view.

@doodlemania2 If anyone is interested - I know some of you weren't keen on my original service cause it was US based (Latency being the top questions).

So, happy to announce I'm now up and running in Frankfurt, so if you'd like to leverage either of those tools (or anything else I offer hosting for), let me know. See www.thedoodleproject.com for details if you are curious.

Not a fan of WFH. Very likely to just lie on the couch.lol

@murgero That's not even retro for most companies in the Microsoft tax fiefdom 😂

@micmc https://www.ocenaudio.com/features comes to mind. Has been always been free though not Open Source. For easy editing and effects, I actually prefer it over Audacity. Mostly for the less ugly UI 🙂

@humptydumpty thanks, I had the exact same issue with https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2189/ldap-ad-server/40 (which I note has "ad" in the url) also with uBlock Origin installed and so just added cloudron.io to Trusted Sites and now it works fine for me again (just hard refreshing was not working).

ups. sorry.

@sysadmin Actually, I didn't see this option yesterday. I saw "self-hosted" and immediately clicked on it 😆. Thanks again!

@robi I've put it in the corresponding thread here

Relatedly, for the benefit of the team here, I'm a ghostwriter for some of the content at HostingAdvice.com. I've nominated Cloudron as a potential future feature article, and the staff there added y'all to the list of companies to research for future interviews. (And if they conduct one, I'll end up doing the write-up.) HA gets pretty decent traffic from a CIO perspective, so here's hoping that Cloudron comes up on the list sometime soon.

@atrilahiji Yeah, it's a compromise step I feel. Secure enough to be better than ad-tech's conflicts of interest, but still aware that the metadata for who's chatting with whom and when still has some potential value that one wouldn't want to share if given an assured choice.

Matrix I love the ideals and successes of. Element seems the best of the bunch. So for this audience, certainly the best we have.

For my entire social circle, well I can't see it happening but would be happy to see otherwise.

I guess the original point of the post was non-Cloudron specific, and potential for mass-market.

I guess we have to wait and see what Elon Musk shills next 😂 if Signal's MOB payments sour the new kid capturing mindshare.

Great thread!

I stumbled up this today so I figured I would share it here as it can sync using nextcloud and that could prove useful for Cloudron users. You are able to format and view notes differently than joplin. I was impressed with Joplin's web clipper. Joplin's biggest asset is it has a huge following. There are alot of plugins being developed to broaden what you can do with it.

https://opentodolist.rpdev.net/
https://gitlab.com/rpdev/opentodolist
"A todo and task managing application, written in Qt and using QML for its UI. OpenTodoList is targeted at typical desktop environments (Windows, Linux, Mac OS X) as well as mobile devices such as Android phones."

This is a nice video walk through.
Youtube Video

It looks like select whether each notwork is local or not. I am not sure if you can do that with joplin. Here is a link to the android app.

@robi Yeah, tried all the LibreOffice sort-of mode settings, the experience on Mac & Windows is not as good as Linux, and I don't need to run a Linux desktop just for Docs, Sheets & Slides.

If LibreOffice & Softmaker collaborated, that would be amazing. In the meantime, I need speed and productivity, and this I feel is a notable option, albeit perhaps for growing influence in campaigning for better FOSS in this area by example and qualified feedback.

@scooke
I have the same issue, it just happens. Some stupid bot or just a spelling mistake.
I assume you have catch-all enabled in the e-mail settings for that domain? After you disable it, only your configured addresses receive mails.

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@humptydumpty said in Thinking about self-hosting; why do/don't you run your own hardware?:

@necrevistonnezr Do you mind sharing the hardware/specs you're running?

ASRock Beebox N3000 (https://www.asrock.com/nettop/Intel/Beebox Series/index.asp#Specification), with Intel Celeron N3000 CPU (Dual Core, up to 2.08 GHz), 8 GB RAM, 512 GB M2 SSD and a 2 TB 2.5" HDD - it's quite old already but still sufficient for all my needs (Nextcloud, Bitwarden, a Wordpress Site, FreshRSS, etc.).

Added a basic token check via querystring. Basically Directus doesn't let me set auth headers via their webhooks so I cant trigger builds off of it directly. Needed this as a middleman.

There are some amazing stories of auctions for digital items as NFTs with 7 figure outcomes. People are excited about the potential. Even betting on future events.

@jensbee4 said in Fire declared in OVH SBG2 datacentre building:

The problem on my side is i get an internal server error from exoscal. i checked with serveral clients. Will wait if the support can give me a list of buckits....

Oh, that's unfortunate 😞 I am surprised how an object storage service can fail with just 2TB.

An important question. Is my infomation correct that every backup is a full backup?

It's not! Some backups are the backup of a single app. This is during right before we update an app. I created a task to make this clearer (https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/box/-/issues/775).

If you want to give a person instructions on how to cleanup backups, you can tell them that if a directory contains a file named box_xxx, then it's a full backup. Otherwise, it's not. In general, if you had backups for this year, you can safely remove everything from 2020 I guess. Alternately, the backend people must have some mechanism to stash those things in some other bucket temporarily instead of deleting it.

@thetomester13 said in App Idea: ActivityPub enabled git platform:

@atrilahiji I actually came across something like this not too long ago, Radicle, which seems to be like what you're talking about I think. Might be worth looking into.

Wow this looks cool actually. Looks super clean too. I'll keep an eye on this, thanks!

@yusf said in App Idea: ActivityPub enabled git platform:

This is the aim of the forgefed initiative. A sort of working group for a spec for federated git forges such as Gitea.

Forgefed seems promising. Going to keep an eye on this one 👀

@privsec said in DO got NVMe drives:

I really like Netcups service. their site is kinda piss poor but the support is good and they have a cloudron deployment option

I don't like the fact that even though they charge by the hour you have to pay 6 months up front.

@murgero Thanks! I already found the GitHub in my own search! I will try it out but i just thought, maybe you guys here know of more 😄

@girish You're right. It seems you need to have the search box separate than the address bar to have that option work. I like them separated because I use it mostly as a temp copy/paste location and you can see the info across tabs.

@humptydumpty thank you, very useful to know

@humptydumpty I think low-to-medium traffic is the key in that since it's latency that has the most difference on perceived speed with web browsing & app interfaces (as opposed to things like downloading/streaming).

updown.io is my go-to for monitoring TTFB times from various locations and the cheapest way I've found of doing that.

I usually target <200ms total TTFB from the nearest location and <1s from the furthest to be considered satisfying for all.

Much of the TTFB effect is from the app itself.

As an example; we have Windows servers on Contabo, accessed via Remote Desktop on, and the screencasting is as responsive and quick as any.

If you wanted higher port speed, you'd still probably find upgrading the package on Contabo cheaper than going to something that has the higher port speeds on the lower tier packages anyway.

For me the decisions are: Contabo when I need the cost-efficient CPU & RAM but Hetzner when I want the VPS to be collaborated on, or potentially moved between accounts without migrating the underlying VPS.

I tried pretty much every other provider over the years, and when you find one or two that have a solution for all you need, perform well, have the lowest prices, and all the features you need to get things done - they become a set & forget utility and I'm grateful not to have to think about moving anything again for the foreseeable.