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Froodle pdf dev here, glad you like it!
If you ever want any app enhancements for it feel free to request them on github!

HI all,
Im frooodle the creator of Stirling-PDF
We are currently redesigning the UI for Stirling-PDF and wanted to get any thoughts and recommendations on the UI change.
We currently have a docker image frooodle/s-pdf:testNewDesign
But also just a test website up here for people to try
http://stirlingpdf.io:8088/ (or http://185.252.234.121:8088/ if Domain doesnt work)

Please let me know what you think, there is a new on hover Tools navbar and cleaner headers and logos on each page with other tweeks to general interface

Stirling founder here, it means nothing other than more money to support the free version
Our goal is to only target enterprise users that need advanced audit logs or SAML SSO etc
Outside of that we want to try make all features and improvements for all users
I think so far it's going well

@marcusquinn sponsors always welcome currently only have 2 monthly sponsors
I have some big updates coming next few weeks as I will be releasing v1.0.0 of the app with lots of automation things and new features so stay tuned

@LoudLemur stirling pdf tries to be standalone so doesn't work with any other packages currently

Be thankful its not the v0.1.0 design from like 2 years ago

@jdaviescoates confirmed txt has issue I'll be disabling that feature and add a fix to backlog

But rtf option of that page works fine for me (not in cloudron)

This can probably be closed since Text conversion has been removed from Stirling-PDF for now due to bug in LibreOffice
Only RTF remains

LDAP is in roadmap! Although no ETA
Also most feature requests are done by GitHub issue tickets not discord otherwise it's hard to track over time

@robi I'd always feel awkward with adverts with open source. If I ever implement something like this I'd have to be opt in. Has bad conatations with tracking etc and anti OSS (even though the site you linked looks awesome for what they stand for)

I have considered a business version with premium features but it's hard with licensing with code reuse and ideally I'd want all features on both and not limit the FOSS.

I considering something like adding a 2 concurrent Web client limit for OSS maybe

Shall see where it takes me... ethically I might just keep it open forever
It's nice hearing people cancel adobe subscriptions because of it

@Neiluj reached out to them

"We don't accept projects hosted under personal profiles. Our mission is to support groups rather than individuals. Have you considered moving it to a separate GitHub org? This helps to signal that this project is a collaboration instead of a personal undertaking."

I'll have to think about how best to do this and pros and cons

Does the cloudron instance support tesseract5? Stirling-PDF recently did a change from tess 4 to tess5 and is no longer checking the 4.00 path for its OCR.
For SPDF docker we did
add-apt-repository ppa:alex-p/tesseract-ocr5 && apt install -y --no-install-recommends tesseract-ocr
https://github.com/Frooodle/Stirling-PDF/blob/main/DockerfileBase#L26

As the ubuntu base image (debian too) are 4.x

In latest Stirling PDF update there were changed to app logo! Please update the ones uses in cloudron !

Also we moved to alpine images recently... Might cause issues with your OCR Tess language mapping.. might want to check and confirm

I hope you have all had a chance to fill out our survey which showed up in our latest update

https://stirlingpdf.info/s/clwzgtfw7000gltkmwz1n212m

Hoping to get more information from our user base with focus on businesses and larger operations to hopefully become a funded OSS via company paid support etc
Please let me know anything you think might be interesting for me to know

For Cloudron they might need to do the following changes
https://github.com/Stirling-Tools/Stirling-PDF/commit/d34c44ed7bbf60d85f96744f99cd38a38911daa3
adding
PYTHONPATH=/usr/lib/libreoffice/program:/opt/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages
UNO_PATH=/usr/lib/libreoffice/program
URE_BOOTSTRAP=file:///usr/lib/libreoffice/program/fundamentalrc

and pip install unoserver
along with
ln -s /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/uno.py /opt/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/ &&
ln -s /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/unohelper.py /opt/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/ &&
ln -s /usr/lib/libreoffice/program /opt/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/LibreOffice && \

(or whatever the python install path is that aligns with unoserver etc)

We also now start
/opt/venv/bin/unoserver --port 2003 --interface 0.0.0.0
alongside stirling app.jar

The reason is unoconv which we use for file to PDF now is a server and unoconv is depreciated

@robi any recommendations for payment methods outside of PayPal and github sponsers? / ways to advertise it I'm quite curious how others approach it. This is my first proper FOSS

@girish this step has no OCR if that's what you're wanting, you would need to run OCR step first
In that usecase this would only carry over the image file which txt wouldn't support
However I can try debug this to see if I can reproduce if you are on about a pdf containing actual text
Could very likely be issue on stirling pdf side

@girish ahh this is bad wording on my part
This is no standalone env for group to remove it follows the same naming from the yml file config
Which does auto get overridden by env variables of same path name

Will update this readme thanks

@girish Hey the official docker image is also getting this bug now, can you link me the code change you did to fix this in your container?

@marcusquinn toggle for list view is a good idea, ill add to todo list, this new UI update just released by the way