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Blackhole for Bad Bots - proposing this as a default install

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  • d19dotcaD d19dotca

    Interesting plugin, hadn't seen that before. Looks promising and seems logical too in it's approach.

    @marcusquinn - In your experience using this plugin, has this been seen to reduce spam in forms by any chance? That's a problem I've been having lately on a few sites, not a big deal as I don't get too much but maybe a few a week use a form on a website that's just spam. Even using Google reCAPTCHA and honeypot form fields won't do the trick for some reason. When I checked Google reCAPTCHA it saw those as basically perfectly valid, so if I were to up the score limit it may start to have false positives which I don't want to risk for some of my clients.

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    @d19dotca not had any spam issues TBH, so I think so. Like I say, we have the pro version but not harm in trying the free.

    Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
    Development https://brandlight.org
    Life https://marcusquinn.com

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    • d19dotcaD d19dotca

      @robi Actually you lead me onto a great idea. I went and did some RBL checks on those IP addresses I see sending the forms, and sure enough most of the recent ones are in the Spamhaus XBL list. Now to see if I can somehow get that data into Cloudron as a large listing or something, may be a huge help in reducing spam / bots to the websites.

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      @d19dotca
      Nice work, that's a great start - existing known spammers.

      Now they just need to be in the right format list.

      It would help to make a new thread with your findings and share the list.

      Conscious tech

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      • d19dotcaD d19dotca

        Interesting plugin, hadn't seen that before. Looks promising and seems logical too in it's approach.

        @marcusquinn - In your experience using this plugin, has this been seen to reduce spam in forms by any chance? That's a problem I've been having lately on a few sites, not a big deal as I don't get too much but maybe a few a week use a form on a website that's just spam. Even using Google reCAPTCHA and honeypot form fields won't do the trick for some reason. When I checked Google reCAPTCHA it saw those as basically perfectly valid, so if I were to up the score limit it may start to have false positives which I don't want to risk for some of my clients.

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        @d19dotca I always install Wordfence which I really like. You could also try https://wordpress.org/plugins/goodbye-captcha/

        The idea of bringing in spam IP lists sounds like a good plan too.

        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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        • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

          @d19dotca I always install Wordfence which I really like. You could also try https://wordpress.org/plugins/goodbye-captcha/

          The idea of bringing in spam IP lists sounds like a good plan too.

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          @jdaviescoates Looking at WP Bruiser I can't tell what it does.. there's a lot of marketing around it but it also seems like a lot of cloak and dagger.

          It would be nice to know how it works.

          Conscious tech

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            @jdaviescoates Looking at WP Bruiser I can't tell what it does.. there's a lot of marketing around it but it also seems like a lot of cloak and dagger.

            It would be nice to know how it works.

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            @robi We use WP Bruiser with a bunch of add-on licences, generally we check everything for performance and code quality before committing to a choice, so it was a while back now but I don't recall any issues since.

            Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
            Development https://brandlight.org
            Life https://marcusquinn.com

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            • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

              @robi We use WP Bruiser with a bunch of add-on licences, generally we check everything for performance and code quality before committing to a choice, so it was a while back now but I don't recall any issues since.

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              @marcusquinn that's nice. do you know what it does to stop bots?

              Conscious tech

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              • robiR robi

                @marcusquinn that's nice. do you know what it does to stop bots?

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                @robi I know we don't have a bot problem 🙂

                Quick look at the reports on one website would suggest so:

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                Development https://brandlight.org
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                • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                  @robi I know we don't have a bot problem 🙂

                  Quick look at the reports on one website would suggest so:

                  20014755-6e1f-470c-a921-e0744f0999de-image.png

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                  @marcusquinn it's ok to say you don't know how it works too 😆

                  Conscious tech

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                  • robiR robi

                    @marcusquinn it's ok to say you don't know how it works too 😆

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                    @robi I truly don't care how it works. I care about how things work that no-one else has solved 🙂

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                    • robiR robi

                      @jdaviescoates Looking at WP Bruiser I can't tell what it does.. there's a lot of marketing around it but it also seems like a lot of cloak and dagger.

                      It would be nice to know how it works.

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                      @robi I've no idea how it works either!

                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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