Rapid Bay - Self-hosted torrent video streaming service compatible with Chromecast and AppleTV
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+1 for this. Would be really cool. I imagine you'd need a VPN as well no?
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I‘d be careful with such apps on this platform. Their intended use is more or less clear and you don’t want to maneuver Cloudron into a position like Kodi where you have legal troubles with apps despite the platform being legal.
And note that even a bogus DMCA request or such creates lawyer costs etc. -
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@robi With Jackett as a backend, most judges will assume intent to use Rapidbay (Rapidshare + Piratebay?) for non-legal activities and one will have the burden of proof that it was used otherwise. By then, you have spent a couple of grands on lawyers.
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@necrevistonnezr depends on your jurisdiction I suppose. In many places, unless you clearly are operating something like Piratebay just completely ignoring threatening emails seems to do the trick. There is a cost/ benefit analysis for the people paying the lawyers too - if it's too small fry, why bother?
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@jdaviescoates said in Rapid Bay - Self-hosted torrent video streaming service compatible with Chromecast and AppleTV:
@necrevistonnezr depends on your jurisdiction I suppose. In many places, unless you clearly are operating something like Piratebay just completely ignoring threatening emails seems to do the trick. There is a cost/ benefit analysis for the people paying the lawyers too - if it's too small fry, why bother?
Cloudron is based in Germany and thus subject to German / European laws and jurisdiction.
Ignoring a legal document, e.g. a cease and desist, whether in electronic or written form, is never a good idea (unless it's an obvious scam), since Germany / the EU (and most other Western countries like the UK, US, etc.) have the concept of legal consequences by default, e.g. judgment by default: If you don't react to a legitimate but factually incorrect legal document, you can be bound by such incorrect facts later on simply because you did not react.In practice, if you receive a letter by some lawyer - what do you do? Ignore it? No. Ask a lawyer? Yes. By the time you have an answer or reaction, there already a couple of hundred Euros through the drain (if the lawyer works on an hourly basis instead of statutory fees, like most do), apart from the time and energy spent.
If it goes to a longer process or even to court, take that amount and time at least times 10.
Even if you win at court, you won't get reimbursed for the hourly fees but only for statutory fees - which is a small percentage. The time and energy spent is gone, anyway.
So believe me, if you run a legitimate business, you want to stay as far away as possible from illegal activities as possible unless you like spending time and money with lawyers.
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@necrevistonnezr I agree with you really that it's nearly always better to be safe than sorry.
It's just that I also know from experience of e.g. having shared non-free PDFs in an online library, that in practice even though the concept of legal consequences by default exists, in practice normally nothing at all happens.
Occassionally something does happen (e.g. they bother to contact the actual host, who then also ask to please take the PDF down or they'll cut off the hosting). But even when this very occasionally happens, no costs or lawyers are involved (apart from those paying people to bulk send cease and desist emails).
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@jdaviescoates said in Rapid Bay - Self-hosted torrent video streaming service compatible with Chromecast and AppleTV:
@necrevistonnezr I agree with you really that it's nearly always better to be safe than sorry.
It's just that I also know from experience of e.g. having shared non-free PDFs in an online library, that in practice even though the concept of legal consequences by default exists, in practice normally nothing at all happens.
You're sure of that to an extent that you would be willing to cover legal costs of @girish and @nebulon in case you're wrong?
Mass violations of intellectual property rights are not prosecuted or followed up by rights holders because you either are not easily discoverable (the rights holder needs a warrant against the host or the ISP first) or it's not worth it (the violater is unlikely to be able to pay damages).
In case of Cloudron, you just have a look at the imprint on their homepage and have a address for service of a legal document. Since they run a successful business, it's also worth it because they are able to pay the damages you ask for. So I believe there's a big difference.
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@necrevistonnezr said in Rapid Bay - Self-hosted torrent video streaming service compatible with Chromecast and AppleTV:
You're sure of that to an extent that you would be willing to cover legal costs of @girish and @nebulon in case you're wrong?
No, that's why I said I actually agree with you
(the rest was just me sharing personal experience for general info).(Although I do note as others have done so above that we already have Alltube and Simple Torrent on Cloudron).
