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  • girishG girish

    @Odonno It seems the license on the package is BSL. We try to keep the package source code as proper opensource licenses . Note that surrealdb itself can be BSL, this is not a problem. The license in the repo only on the license of the package. This allows us (cloudron team) to continue to provide updates to the package reliably.

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    @girish Ok, this is done. As long as it does not violate the SurrealDB license, I suppose it's ok.

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      @Odonno Ok, I have forked it into our namespace - https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/surrealdb-app . You should also be a maintainer of the repo.

      So, the next step, is to get the tests working . Then, we will take a look into getting it published. Thanks for all the work!

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        @Odonno Ok, I have forked it into our namespace - https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/surrealdb-app . You should also be a maintainer of the repo.

        So, the next step, is to get the tests working . Then, we will take a look into getting it published. Thanks for all the work!

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        @girish Thank you. I can write the required tests. I am just stuck with the first one in error...

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          @Odonno The message is just saying, you have to run cloudron build first before you can run cloudron install . Maybe you changed the repo directory or something? When that happens, it "forgets" the previous cloudron build image information.

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            @Odonno The message is just saying, you have to run cloudron build first before you can run cloudron install . Maybe you changed the repo directory or something? When that happens, it "forgets" the previous cloudron build image information.

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            @girish Ah yes, that explains why. I don't know how it keeps track of the correct docker image. I suppose there is a key-value store somewhere.

            Well, I finished to write a pretty good set of e2e tests. I think it is ready. Thank you for your help.

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              @girish Ah yes, that explains why. I don't know how it keeps track of the correct docker image. I suppose there is a key-value store somewhere.

              Well, I finished to write a pretty good set of e2e tests. I think it is ready. Thank you for your help.

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              @Odonno indeed, the key value store is in ~/.cloudron.json

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              • girishG girish

                @Odonno indeed, the key value store is in ~/.cloudron.json

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                @girish Good to know! So, what's the next step?

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                  @girish Good to know! So, what's the next step?

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                  @Odonno we will have to find the time to review and publish the package.

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                    Any update on this @girish ?

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                      @Odonno haven't found the time yet. We are still working on getting a few apps updated before we start looking into new ones.

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                      • girishG girish

                        @Odonno haven't found the time yet. We are still working on getting a few apps updated before we start looking into new ones.

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                        @girish Very good practice indeed.

                        I have updated to the latest release 1.2.0. Gonna need that really really soon. But I suppose I can stick with my currently built local docker image.

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                          Updated to 1.3.0

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                            Updated to 1.4.0

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                              Updated to 1.5.0

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                                Any news on this?

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                                  I looked into this today. The file backend of surrealdb uses RocksDB - https://github.com/surrealdb/surrealdb/blob/bf702b0d67c63884dfa7fa567482858ce87315a5/lib/src/api/engine/any/mod.rs#L274C60-L274C67 . From what I have read, it is not safe to backups rocksdb by just using file copy . See https://github.com/surrealdb/surrealdb/issues/1681 and https://github.com/facebook/rocksdb/wiki/How-to-backup-RocksDB . This makes sense since it's a database .

                                  I think we have to implement backup/restore flow into Cloudron to publish databases. This is why we also don't have PostgreSQL, MySQL, MongoDB etc as "apps" . Currently, there is no provision to backup and restore them when they are deployed as apps.

                                  A separate issue is that this app has no real frontend . The app just redirects to surrealdb.com when clicked.

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                                    Thank you for looking into this @girish

                                    I have some questions/notes:

                                    1. PocketBase is also a database. How is that you can support it and can't for other database?
                                    2. Note that SurrealDB can run on SurrealKV, a custom-tailored KV store. I will try to make it work with backups if that's possible.
                                    3. Yes, the main route is currently a redirect to the home page of the project website. We are currently working on embedding a web UI inside the db. So, this issue will be solved soon.

                                    Will get back to you once everything is settled.

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                                      Thank you for looking into this @girish

                                      I have some questions/notes:

                                      1. PocketBase is also a database. How is that you can support it and can't for other database?
                                      2. Note that SurrealDB can run on SurrealKV, a custom-tailored KV store. I will try to make it work with backups if that's possible.
                                      3. Yes, the main route is currently a redirect to the home page of the project website. We are currently working on embedding a web UI inside the db. So, this issue will be solved soon.

                                      Will get back to you once everything is settled.

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                                      @Odonno said in SurrealDB:

                                      PocketBase is also a database. How is that you can support it and can't for other database?

                                      I was under the mistaken impression that PocketBase uses postgres. But looking closer, it uses sqlite and afaik, it's not safe to copy sqlite3 file when there are pending writes. So, you are correct, that app is not safe either. Luckily, that app is still in unstable, we might have to delist that one. Or alternately, look into who we can add some hook to make consistent backups.

                                      Yes, the main route is currently a redirect to the home page of the project website. We are currently working on embedding a web UI inside the db. So, this issue will be solved soon.

                                      This will be great. TBH, We are open to publishing the app as-is as unstable with a warning. But the lack of a UI makes it strange. Like user installs an app and when they click, it just goes straight to some other website. It doesn't work well given the workflow of other apps on Cloudron. Is this the same as https://surrealdb.com/docs/surrealist or something else?

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                                        @Odonno said in SurrealDB:

                                        PocketBase is also a database. How is that you can support it and can't for other database?

                                        I was under the mistaken impression that PocketBase uses postgres. But looking closer, it uses sqlite and afaik, it's not safe to copy sqlite3 file when there are pending writes. So, you are correct, that app is not safe either. Luckily, that app is still in unstable, we might have to delist that one. Or alternately, look into who we can add some hook to make consistent backups.

                                        Yes, the main route is currently a redirect to the home page of the project website. We are currently working on embedding a web UI inside the db. So, this issue will be solved soon.

                                        This will be great. TBH, We are open to publishing the app as-is as unstable with a warning. But the lack of a UI makes it strange. Like user installs an app and when they click, it just goes straight to some other website. It doesn't work well given the workflow of other apps on Cloudron. Is this the same as https://surrealdb.com/docs/surrealist or something else?

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                                        @girish said in SurrealDB:

                                        Or alternately, look into who we can add some hook to make consistent backups.

                                        SurrealDB has an export mode. You can use either a /export endpoint or the command in cli. I like your idea of offering an option to customize the backup workflow.

                                        @girish said in SurrealDB:

                                        Is this the same as https://surrealdb.com/docs/surrealist or something else?

                                        This is exactly what we'll try to embed, yes.

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