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  • C cvachery

    Thanks to @MiroTalk in the latest version it works and the config is nearly perfect
    Only issue is still one identified erlier that anonymous users can create room if they go to the specific URL

    @MiroTalk said in Use Cloudron Logins for host protected settings:

    @avatar1024 said in Use Cloudron Logins for host protected settings:

    Otherwise, while guest cannot enter the app base domain without a login, they can still create rooms freely by creating a url: mirotalkappprefix.mydomain.com/join/roomname

    @MiroTalk is that behaviour intended?

    Not a behaviour intended! I'm considering a refinement where guests are only allowed to join specified rooms that have already been created by authenticated users. This approach might offer better control and security. Will be released in the next version.

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    #32

    @cvachery said in Use Cloudron Logins for host protected settings:

    Thanks to @MiroTalk in the latest version it works and the config is nearly perfect
    Only issue is still one identified erlier that anonymous users can create room if they go to the specific

    Should be fixed in both MiroTalk P2P v.1.3.79 & MiroTalk SFU v.1.5.80. Cheers.

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      nebulon
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      wrote on last edited by
      #33

      Both packages are updated also now.

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      • MiroTalkM MiroTalk

        @cvachery said in Use Cloudron Logins for host protected settings:

        Thanks to @MiroTalk in the latest version it works and the config is nearly perfect
        Only issue is still one identified erlier that anonymous users can create room if they go to the specific

        Should be fixed in both MiroTalk P2P v.1.3.79 & MiroTalk SFU v.1.5.80. Cheers.

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        Neiluj
        wrote on last edited by Neiluj
        #34

        @MiroTalk said in Use Cloudron Logins for host protected settings:

        @cvachery said in Use Cloudron Logins for host protected settings:

        Thanks to @MiroTalk in the latest version it works and the config is nearly perfect
        Only issue is still one identified erlier that anonymous users can create room if they go to the specific

        Should be fixed in both MiroTalk P2P v.1.3.79 & MiroTalk SFU v.1.5.80. Cheers.

        Yeah I am still having issue with this / cannot figure out the correct settings to prevent anonymous user room creation.

        Basically, I am trying to limit room creation to registered Cloudron User, but still keep the possibility for anonymous users to join a room once created.

        At the moment, my MiroTalk SFU app has its cloudron setting access control set to "Only allow the following users and groups".

        I do have a custom config.js with the following:

            host: {
                /*
                    Host Protection (default: false)
                    To enhance host security, enable host protection - user auth and provide valid
                    usernames and passwords in the users array.
                */
                protected: true,
                user_auth: false,
                users: [
                    /*
                    {
                        username: 'username',
                        password: 'password',
                    },
                    {
                        username: 'username2',
                        password: 'password2',
                    },
                    ...
                    */
                ]
            },
        

        Yet room creation is still allowed for anonymous users.

        I could set user_auth to true and provider "provide valid usernames and passwords in the users array." as mentioned in the config.js comment, but my understanding is that this will void/conflict with the cloudron OIDC integration.

        Of course, I am likely missing something so I am wondering if anyone got this working properly and if/when so, what are the proper settings for preventing room creation by anonymous users.

        Many thanks,

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        • N Neiluj

          @MiroTalk said in Use Cloudron Logins for host protected settings:

          @cvachery said in Use Cloudron Logins for host protected settings:

          Thanks to @MiroTalk in the latest version it works and the config is nearly perfect
          Only issue is still one identified erlier that anonymous users can create room if they go to the specific

          Should be fixed in both MiroTalk P2P v.1.3.79 & MiroTalk SFU v.1.5.80. Cheers.

          Yeah I am still having issue with this / cannot figure out the correct settings to prevent anonymous user room creation.

          Basically, I am trying to limit room creation to registered Cloudron User, but still keep the possibility for anonymous users to join a room once created.

          At the moment, my MiroTalk SFU app has its cloudron setting access control set to "Only allow the following users and groups".

          I do have a custom config.js with the following:

              host: {
                  /*
                      Host Protection (default: false)
                      To enhance host security, enable host protection - user auth and provide valid
                      usernames and passwords in the users array.
                  */
                  protected: true,
                  user_auth: false,
                  users: [
                      /*
                      {
                          username: 'username',
                          password: 'password',
                      },
                      {
                          username: 'username2',
                          password: 'password2',
                      },
                      ...
                      */
                  ]
              },
          

          Yet room creation is still allowed for anonymous users.

          I could set user_auth to true and provider "provide valid usernames and passwords in the users array." as mentioned in the config.js comment, but my understanding is that this will void/conflict with the cloudron OIDC integration.

          Of course, I am likely missing something so I am wondering if anyone got this working properly and if/when so, what are the proper settings for preventing room creation by anonymous users.

          Many thanks,

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          MiroTalk
          wrote on last edited by
          #35

          @Neiluj If you have OIDC enabled, you can safely remove the entire host: { ... } section from your configuration. Simply rely on OIDC for authentication, and let me know if everything works as expected. Thank you!

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            nebulon
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            wrote on last edited by
            #36

            @Neiluj I just tried this here also with MiroTalk SFU and without changing the app configs manually, just install the app with Cloudron usermanagement enabled and then only authenticated users can create meetings, while everyone can join them with the share link.

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            • nebulonN nebulon

              @Neiluj I just tried this here also with MiroTalk SFU and without changing the app configs manually, just install the app with Cloudron usermanagement enabled and then only authenticated users can create meetings, while everyone can join them with the share link.

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              mdc773
              wrote on last edited by
              #37

              @nebulon said in Use Cloudron Logins for host protected settings:

              @Neiluj I just tried this here also with MiroTalk SFU and without changing the app configs manually, just install the app with Cloudron usermanagement enabled and then only authenticated users can create meetings, while everyone can join them with the share link.

              cant login when i follow your direction

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                wrote on last edited by
                #38

                was the app installed with Cloudron usermanagement? If so do you see an error somewhere?

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                • nebulonN nebulon

                  was the app installed with Cloudron usermanagement? If so do you see an error somewhere?

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                  mdc773
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #39

                  @nebulon Yes cloudron user management was selected. Wired now when i vist a room and does not prompt the user auth just lunches the room: /

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                    nebulon
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #40

                    I think a direct link is like a public link share unless the room is protected, so that might be expected on how the app is currently written

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                    • nebulonN nebulon

                      I think a direct link is like a public link share unless the room is protected, so that might be expected on how the app is currently written

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                      mdc773
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #41

                      @nebulon said in Use Cloudron Logins for host protected settings:

                      I think a direct link is like a public link share unless the room is protected, so that might be expected on how the app is currently written

                      even if i enable protection still cant use couldron account

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                      • mdc773M mdc773

                        @nebulon said in Use Cloudron Logins for host protected settings:

                        I think a direct link is like a public link share unless the room is protected, so that might be expected on how the app is currently written

                        even if i enable protection still cant use couldron account

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                        jdaviescoates
                        wrote on last edited by jdaviescoates
                        #42

                        @mdc773 I think perhaps you're missing something here.

                        If you're already logged into your Cloudron dashboard in the same browser you visit your MiroTalk app URL, it doesn't prompt for auth - it just magically checks if you're logged in and if you are just automatically logs you in.

                        But if you visit the same URL in a private tab you should indeed get prompted to login to Cloudron.

                        At least that's what happens for me.

                        I am logged into my Cloudron dashboard, so when I visit my MiroTalk URL I arrive here:

                        3c0c3711-4567-405e-83ab-b851f31a41b6-image.png

                        But if I visit the same URL in a private tab I get this:

                        4ad9ae9f-beae-4c24-92b5-bf532a8cf8d5-image.png

                        I also just double checked and if you try to visit a join URL of a meeting after the logged in person has left the meeting, it no longer works and you are presented with the login screen again.

                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                        • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                          @mdc773 I think perhaps you're missing something here.

                          If you're already logged into your Cloudron dashboard in the same browser you visit your MiroTalk app URL, it doesn't prompt for auth - it just magically checks if you're logged in and if you are just automatically logs you in.

                          But if you visit the same URL in a private tab you should indeed get prompted to login to Cloudron.

                          At least that's what happens for me.

                          I am logged into my Cloudron dashboard, so when I visit my MiroTalk URL I arrive here:

                          3c0c3711-4567-405e-83ab-b851f31a41b6-image.png

                          But if I visit the same URL in a private tab I get this:

                          4ad9ae9f-beae-4c24-92b5-bf532a8cf8d5-image.png

                          I also just double checked and if you try to visit a join URL of a meeting after the logged in person has left the meeting, it no longer works and you are presented with the login screen again.

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                          mdc773
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #43

                          @jdaviescoates awesome i was wondering how i did not think of this

                          silly me

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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #44

                            @jdaviescoates good guess to resolve this quicker!

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