Use Cloudron Logins for host protected settings

[MiroTalk]

@Neiluj If you have OIDC enabled, you can safely remove the entire host: { ... } section from your configuration. Simply rely on OIDC for authentication, and let me know if everything works as expected. Thank you!

[nebulon]

@Neiluj I just tried this here also with MiroTalk SFU and without changing the app configs manually, just install the app with Cloudron usermanagement enabled and then only authenticated users can create meetings, while everyone can join them with the share link.

[mdc773]

@nebulon said in Use Cloudron Logins for host protected settings:

@Neiluj I just tried this here also with MiroTalk SFU and without changing the app configs manually, just install the app with Cloudron usermanagement enabled and then only authenticated users can create meetings, while everyone can join them with the share link.

cant login when i follow your direction

[nebulon]

was the app installed with Cloudron usermanagement? If so do you see an error somewhere?

[mdc773]

@nebulon Yes cloudron user management was selected. Wired now when i vist a room and does not prompt the user auth just lunches the room: /

[nebulon]

I think a direct link is like a public link share unless the room is protected, so that might be expected on how the app is currently written

[mdc773]

@nebulon said in Use Cloudron Logins for host protected settings:

I think a direct link is like a public link share unless the room is protected, so that might be expected on how the app is currently written

even if i enable protection still cant use couldron account

[jdaviescoates]

@mdc773 I think perhaps you're missing something here.

If you're already logged into your Cloudron dashboard in the same browser you visit your MiroTalk app URL, it doesn't prompt for auth - it just magically checks if you're logged in and if you are just automatically logs you in.

But if you visit the same URL in a private tab you should indeed get prompted to login to Cloudron.

At least that's what happens for me.

I am logged into my Cloudron dashboard, so when I visit my MiroTalk URL I arrive here:

But if I visit the same URL in a private tab I get this:

I also just double checked and if you try to visit a join URL of a meeting after the logged in person has left the meeting, it no longer works and you are presented with the login screen again.

[mdc773]

@jdaviescoates awesome i was wondering how i did not think of this

silly me

[nebulon]

@jdaviescoates good guess to resolve this quicker!

[admeister]

Hi there,

re: Mirotalk SFU 1.9.77

I'm trying to configure Mirotalk SFU to only allow logged in Cloudron users to join a room.

If I'm reading this thread correctly, I don't need to include any OIDC settings in the env file anymore - so this is what my env file looks like, attached.

As the host, Mirotalk now (incorrectly) says that I am not logged in myself (even though I launched MiroTalk from my Cloudron admin dashboard), and then it asks me to login with the MiroTalk interface itself (and not the Cloudron login). When I attempt to use my Cloudron login details it says I have invalid credentials.

So do I actually need to configure all the OIDC settings in the env file? If so, can I pls get some guidance on how to arrive at the exact settings needed?

Thank you!
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[MiroTalk]

@admeister said in Use Cloudron Logins for host protected settings:

I'm trying to configure Mirotalk SFU to only allow logged in Cloudron users to join a room.

Simply remove all the old or unnecessary entries from your env file:

Note: The parameter ALLOW_ROOM_CREATION_WITHOUT_HOST is not related to MiroTalk SFU.

To explicitly configure MiroTalk with Cloudron OIDC Authentication (this is also the default behavior if not explicitly set), use the following environment variables:

OIDC_ENABLED=true
OIDC_ALLOW_ROOMS_CREATION_FOR_AUTH_USERS=true

• OIDC_ENABLED=true — Enables OIDC authentication.
• OIDC_ALLOW_ROOMS_CREATION_FOR_AUTH_USERS=true — Allows all authenticated users via OIDC to create their own rooms.

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If you do not want to use OIDC authentication but still want to define your own user logins, you can disable OIDC and enable MiroTalk SFU internal Host Protection Mode:

# Disable Cloudron OIDC
OIDC_ENABLED=false

# Host protection
HOST_PROTECTED=true
HOST_USER_AUTH=false

# Define host users in the format:
# username:password:displayName:allowedRooms (comma-separated)
HOST_USERS="user1:pass1:user-1:*|user2@mail.com:pass2:user two:*|user3:pass3:user name:*"

• HOST_PROTECTED=true — Enables Host Protection mode.
• HOST_USER_AUTH=false — Disables additional user authentication beyond host users.
• HOST_USERS — List of host users, with * allowing access to all rooms or specific room names separated by commas.

️ After making changes, restart your MiroTalk instance for them to take effect.

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For a complete environment configuration, check the .env.template file:
Full env example

The environment variables are loaded in config.js and serve both as runtime configuration and documentation for additional features:
Full config.js example

[admeister]

Thank you everyone for your responses.

I'm trying to configure Mirotalk SFU to only allow logged in Cloudron users to join a room.

Realised that the solution was far simpler than I thought - I just needed to add a single line to the .env file:

OIDC_AUTH_REQUIRED=true

Thank you deeply to everyone working on Cloudron and all associated apps... I'm in awe of this community!

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