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      murgero
      App Dev
      wrote on last edited by
      #70

      Hmmm it didn't work for me. I'll update with logs later when I'm home.

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        you can find me at @matthias:matrix.bits.at - let me know if that doesn't work πŸ˜‰

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        murgero
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        #71

        @msbt try me: @murgero:matrix.urgero.org

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          msbt
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          #72

          @technotame do you still have problems? If so, please use the federation tester to see if the target server maybe has some issues.

          Also, pushed another update for riot to v1.2.4.

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            #73

            I believe it is mostly working. The link you provided gave all green checks. I think the main issue was the small amount of RAM Matrix and/or Riot was given by default. I bumped them both up to 2 gigs or so and that seemed to be the main fix.

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              yusf
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              #74

              @msbt Performed the upgrade. Everything seem to work as good as the old version. Need to manually edit Synapse and TURN config files to be able to report back on things like group video chat but 1on1 voice and video calls works regardless for me (at least between users on the same server)

              Many thanks for your effort. You’re effectively enabling Matrix adoption for several communities.

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                msbt
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                wrote on last edited by msbt
                #75

                thanks @yusf, glad to hear that! maybe you can share the info if something is not working out of the box for group video chat so I can adjust the code πŸ˜‰

                yes @technotame, bigger channels require a lot of ram, like the #matrix:matrix.org one with several 1000s of users, <2GB probably won't do it, maybe if you're very patient, but the more the better πŸ˜„

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                  I’ll be sure to do that. Thanks again.

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                    yusf
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                    #77

                    Hi @msbt! Sadly I haven't had the time to configure and test the TURN-server.

                    The server has been online and stable for months btw. I'm looking to expand it with app services, webhooks for instance. However, I'm unsure on how to proceed since the Cloudron app is only configured for specific ports only and so on, limiting installing app services in Cloudron user space. Would you be interested in adding a bunch of useful default but opt-in app services?

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                      msbt
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                      hey @yusf, happy to see other people using the package πŸ˜‰

                      I would be happy to add more features/packages, in this case it really needs to be added in the app itself and can't be run as a regular integration. I've been thinking about including other addons as well (this seems to be an extensive setup where we could pick things that are nice2have). Let me know what might be interesting for you and I see what I can do about it.

                      Although it might be a good idea if either @girish or @nebulon also take a look at those and maybe give some pointers, I don't want to spend time on something which they can either do way more quickly and/or don't want in an app at all πŸ˜‰

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                        yusf
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                        #79

                        I've been looking at matrix-appservice-webhooks a bit and the way it works makes it a good candidate for inclusion.

                        It works like so:

                        1. a webhooks bot is created
                        2. you invite this bot to a room
                        3. you create a new webhook with the !webbook command
                        4. the bot sends you a pm with the credentials for this specific new webhook
                        5. profit

                        This means that this integrations grants an unlimited amount of webhooks, so it's not a one-time thing.

                        Would you be willing to look into it?

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                          sure thing, but I probably need you to do the testing and everything, since I don't have a use-case ready to play around with πŸ˜‰ give me a few days to free up some space and I'll look into it!

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                            yusf
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                            #81

                            Thank you! While at it, check out mautrix-facebook as well, as this seems to work in a similar, multi-user fashion.

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                              sure thing, but I probably need you to do the testing and everything, since I don't have a use-case ready to play around with πŸ˜‰ give me a few days to free up some space and I'll look into it!

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                              murgero
                              App Dev
                              wrote on last edited by
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                              @msbt I can test too!

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                                sure thing, but I probably need you to do the testing and everything, since I don't have a use-case ready to play around with πŸ˜‰ give me a few days to free up some space and I'll look into it!

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                                kasini
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                                #83

                                @msbt I can help test if needed. I use webhooks to filter by keyword and aggregate news articles, forum threads, etc.

                                The matrix server and riot app work great so far! Just needed a bump in memory limit when exploring the channel list from matrix.org

                                Recently moved from mattermost -> rocketchat and now excitedly waiting for matrix to go live in the Cloudron app store. Please let me know if there's anything I can do to help!

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                                  yusf
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                                  #84

                                  On the topic of App Store inclusion: how relevant is the attack vector of running Matrix and Riot on the same (sub)domain nowadays? I know that the Matrix folks used to recommended against that setup and perhaps they still do.

                                  Is that threat still as relevant with the Cloudron/Docker setup? After all, Cloudron apps are supposed to work out of the box.

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                                    msbt
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                                    @kasini during the little time I had to try things out I didn't really get anywhere. I was having a talk with @girish a while ago and they're planning to add matrix to the app store at some point. Maybe they can have another look at it since they actually know what they're doing πŸ˜‰

                                    And yes, it requires a lot of RAM if you want to join bigger channels, but if you keep to yourself, you should be good to go with less.

                                    @yusf good question, if noone else does it, I'll jump on the matrix network and ask if that's still a thing to worry about

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                                      yusf
                                      wrote on last edited by yusf
                                      #86

                                      In addition to looking up security concerns of bundling Riot with Matrix, putting it in the app store also calls for a solution to a reverse proxy solution often used in federated software.

                                      What I mean is a way of forwarding certain ports from domain.tld to matrixserver.domain.tld so that user handles follows convention by ommitting the technical placement of the server itself. (Hosting the server on domain.tld sucks for obvious reasons πŸ˜„)

                                      This solution would also enable more federated software with similar needs to come aboard the Cloudron ecosystem.

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                                        october
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                                        Is this app officially provided by Cloudron yet? What's the status? I see the gitlab repo but I don't know what that means.

                                        Btw I would also love to see some bridges included as options. Bridging FB Messenger, whatsapp, telegram etc is essential if one is to use it for personal communication purposes.

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                                          Is this app officially provided by Cloudron yet? What's the status? I see the gitlab repo but I don't know what that means.

                                          Btw I would also love to see some bridges included as options. Bridging FB Messenger, whatsapp, telegram etc is essential if one is to use it for personal communication purposes.

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                                          murgero
                                          App Dev
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #88

                                          @october As of now you have to build and install using the Cloudron CLI:

                                          1. install Cloudron CLI
                                          2. Install docker (or use cloudron build service)
                                          3. git clone repo
                                          4. cd repo
                                          5. docker build -t dockerhubusername/projectname . (Period is important at the end!)
                                          6. docker push dockerhubusername/projectname
                                          7. cloudron login
                                          8. cloudron install --image dockerhubusername/projectname

                                          That's the general way to install apps not in the cloudron app store. - If using the build service provided by cloudron, replace 5 & 6 with cloudron build

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                                            yusf
                                            wrote on last edited by yusf
                                            #89

                                            maubot would be a nice inclusion in the package as well. It's a bot framework, with a GUI.

                                            Not necessary to have inside this package at all. Only Application Services are!

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