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Nextcloud OIDC integration

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  • J joseph

    @firmansi Wanted to extend my invitation in the other thread to you too. If you can reach out to support@cloudron.io and we can debug your install as to why we get this error, it will be great.

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    #44

    @joseph At this moment, this issue not really bugging us since we still able to use Nextcloud as well as User Directory in production scenario without any problem, but yes I will write email to support later on.

    One thing that really bugging me, even I know it's possible or not, I clearly remember that the first time we set up Nextcloud then the user management is set to be managed through Cloudron, and till today, we never create new user within Nextcloud User Management.

    If I am not mistaken, this issue happened when we upgraded from NC 7 to 8 quite a long time ago

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      @joseph I have tried to test the openid server with curl https://my.domain.com/.well-known/openid-configuration from the Nextcloud terminal, and it didnt give any response I have upgraded to the latest Cloudron 8.2.3

      I also try to install new cloudron server with new NC just for testing, and it gives response with curl https://my.domain.com/.well-known/openid-configuration

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      • girishG girish

        @jdaviescoates the plugin doesn't support setting the button name unfortunately. we have to raise issues for these upstream. For example, in the OIDC settings dialog which you posted earlier, you can see that the name comes from the provider type and there is no explicit label configuration. If you open a bug report upstream, please link here.

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        #46

        @girish said in Nextcloud OIDC integration:

        For example, in the OIDC settings dialog which you posted earlier, you can see that the name comes from the provider type and there is no explicit label configuration. If you open a bug report upstream, please link here.

        Aha, I see. I think I will report this upstream.

        Are you able to share what the missing OIDC field name/ value is actually called that e.g. the PeerTube OIDC plugin is picking up but the Nextcloud one isn't? Thanks!

        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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          #47

          Just checked the logs (they are absolutely full):

          LocalServerException
          Host "127.0.1.1" (my.tld.onl:80) violates local access rules
          Could not reach the provider at URL https://my.tld.onl/openid/.well-known/openid-configuration
          
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          • andreasduerenA andreasdueren

            Just checked the logs (they are absolutely full):

            LocalServerException
            Host "127.0.1.1" (my.tld.onl:80) violates local access rules
            Could not reach the provider at URL https://my.tld.onl/openid/.well-known/openid-configuration
            
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            #48

            @andreasdueren said in Nextcloud OIDC integration:

            https://my.tld.onl/openid/.well-known/openid-configuration

            From the terminal, curl https://my.tld.onl/openid/.well-known/openid-configuration works but setting up a separate openID provider (or changing the pre-setup one) will result in this error:

            Screenshot 2025-01-30 at 11.10.12.png

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            • andreasduerenA andreasdueren

              @andreasdueren said in Nextcloud OIDC integration:

              https://my.tld.onl/openid/.well-known/openid-configuration

              From the terminal, curl https://my.tld.onl/openid/.well-known/openid-configuration works but setting up a separate openID provider (or changing the pre-setup one) will result in this error:

              Screenshot 2025-01-30 at 11.10.12.png

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              #49

              @andreasdueren Not that adding 127.0.1.1 to the proxies did the trick but rebooting the app will reset this section in the config file.

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                nebulon
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                #50

                Do you have any nextcloud extension or other configs, which might have a blocklist or other security features added? If curl works, this must be some nextcloud code blocking the outgoing request?

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                • nebulonN nebulon

                  Do you have any nextcloud extension or other configs, which might have a blocklist or other security features added? If curl works, this must be some nextcloud code blocking the outgoing request?

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                  #51

                  @nebulon Unlikely but I can check. This is a pretty fresh installation without any users or data. Don't remember setting anything up

                  Edit: these are the installed apps now (I disabled a bunch but they were all standard apps)
                  Screenshot 2025-02-01 at 09.51.41.png

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                  • andreasduerenA andreasdueren

                    @andreasdueren Not that adding 127.0.1.1 to the proxies did the trick but rebooting the app will reset this section in the config file.

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                    joseph
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                    #52

                    @andreasdueren said in Nextcloud OIDC integration:

                    @andreasdueren Not that adding 127.0.1.1 to the proxies did the trick but rebooting the app will reset this section in the config file.

                    What proxy are you referring to here?

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                    • J joseph

                      @andreasdueren said in Nextcloud OIDC integration:

                      @andreasdueren Not that adding 127.0.1.1 to the proxies did the trick but rebooting the app will reset this section in the config file.

                      What proxy are you referring to here?

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                      andreasdueren
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                      @Joseph In the config file:

                        'trusted_proxies' => 
                        array (
                          0 => '172.18.0.1',
                        ),
                      
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                        joseph
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                        #54

                        @andreasdueren can you tell me what made you add 127.0.1.1 ? Not sure what that IP is

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                        • andreasduerenA andreasdueren

                          Just checked the logs (they are absolutely full):

                          LocalServerException
                          Host "127.0.1.1" (my.tld.onl:80) violates local access rules
                          Could not reach the provider at URL https://my.tld.onl/openid/.well-known/openid-configuration
                          
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                          #55

                          @andreasdueren said in Nextcloud OIDC integration:

                          Just checked the logs (they are absolutely full):

                          LocalServerException
                          Host "127.0.1.1" (my.tld.onl:80) violates local access rules
                          Could not reach the provider at URL https://my.tld.onl/openid/.well-known/openid-configuration
                          

                          @joseph said in Nextcloud OIDC integration:

                          @andreasdueren can you tell me what made you add 127.0.1.1 ? Not sure what that IP is

                          The console complained about it

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                            #56

                            @Joseph So this is weird. Even a fresh install of NC in a new, clean Cloudron is throwing the same error. Any idea why that would be?

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                              nebulon
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                              Did you apply any extra configs to Nextcloud? It is still unclear to me who prints this LocalServerException and why Nextcloud would refuse to connect to that endpoint. Have you looked in the Nextcloud forum/issue tracker about this?

                              Given that you mentioned, that curl to that endpoint from within the nextcloud container works fine, it is somethign within Nextcloud it seems.

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                              • nebulonN nebulon

                                Did you apply any extra configs to Nextcloud? It is still unclear to me who prints this LocalServerException and why Nextcloud would refuse to connect to that endpoint. Have you looked in the Nextcloud forum/issue tracker about this?

                                Given that you mentioned, that curl to that endpoint from within the nextcloud container works fine, it is somethign within Nextcloud it seems.

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                                andreasdueren
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                                @nebulon Nope, new Nextcloud, not even logged in yet

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                                  joseph
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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #59

                                  Best to reach out at support@cloudron.io , it seems hard to debug . Atleast, fresh instances on all our servers and demo instances seem to work fine.

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                                  • J joseph

                                    Best to reach out at support@cloudron.io , it seems hard to debug . Atleast, fresh instances on all our servers and demo instances seem to work fine.

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                                    andreasdueren
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                                    #60

                                    @Joseph Is this something you're interested in debugging? Otherwise I'll just wipe the machine and install fresh

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                                    • andreasduerenA andreasdueren

                                      @Joseph Is this something you're interested in debugging? Otherwise I'll just wipe the machine and install fresh

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                                      joseph
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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #61

                                      @andreasdueren yes, we would like to take a quick look, if possible. Maybe it's something obvious we miss in the package or something else

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                                        girish
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                                        @andreasdueren thanks for the access! I am making a new package to fix the issue.

                                        For those interested, here is the technical information:

                                        • On some VPS providers, when you create a VM with hostname my.foo.com , it will put an entry in /etc/hosts of the server with 127.0.1.1 .

                                        • Starting Cloudron 8, we started using Docker for the DNS resolution. Docker reads /etc/hosts and starts resolving my.foo.com to 127.0.1.1 .

                                        • This meant that for apps (which are running in containers) using the domain name my.foo.com (like OIDC service) does not work. This is because it's resolving to 127.0.1.1.

                                        • To workaround this, we added ExtraHosts to container config. Docker simply adds entries to /etc/hosts of the container. Now, when apps try to resolve my.foo.com they will resolve to 172.18.0.1 because /etc/hosts has more priority than DNS look up.

                                        • This works for all apps... except nextcloud has decided to implement some DNS pinning protection which I think is to prevent against DNS Rebinding attacks. This code looks up DNS directly (thus skipping /etc/hosts lookup) and thus ends up with 127.0.1.1 😕 It blocks the access thinking it's an attack.

                                        • Luckily, there is a config dns_pinning to disable this functionality.

                                        See also https://github.com/nextcloud/server/issues/42901

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                                        • girishG girish

                                          @andreasdueren thanks for the access! I am making a new package to fix the issue.

                                          For those interested, here is the technical information:

                                          • On some VPS providers, when you create a VM with hostname my.foo.com , it will put an entry in /etc/hosts of the server with 127.0.1.1 .

                                          • Starting Cloudron 8, we started using Docker for the DNS resolution. Docker reads /etc/hosts and starts resolving my.foo.com to 127.0.1.1 .

                                          • This meant that for apps (which are running in containers) using the domain name my.foo.com (like OIDC service) does not work. This is because it's resolving to 127.0.1.1.

                                          • To workaround this, we added ExtraHosts to container config. Docker simply adds entries to /etc/hosts of the container. Now, when apps try to resolve my.foo.com they will resolve to 172.18.0.1 because /etc/hosts has more priority than DNS look up.

                                          • This works for all apps... except nextcloud has decided to implement some DNS pinning protection which I think is to prevent against DNS Rebinding attacks. This code looks up DNS directly (thus skipping /etc/hosts lookup) and thus ends up with 127.0.1.1 😕 It blocks the access thinking it's an attack.

                                          • Luckily, there is a config dns_pinning to disable this functionality.

                                          See also https://github.com/nextcloud/server/issues/42901

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                                          @girish So I should add 'dns_pinning' => false, to the config file?

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