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What's coming in 9.1

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  • nostrdevN nostrdev

    @nebulon what about FIDO2 or WebAuthN?

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    @nostrdev said in What's coming in 9.1:

    @nebulon what about FIDO2

    I think that's already done

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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      FIDO2 is the broad name of the standard. passkeys is the (marketing) name of the FIDO2 "key" . WebAuthn is the standard for server to browser/client communication and is part of FIDO2. That is my understanding.

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        so long as we can use an external signing device (like Trezor), and not trust some foreign spyware company like Google or Microsoft or Apple, that would be great.

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          Hello @nostrdev
          We have tested the passkey support with the Bitwarden browser extension, YubiKey 5, Nitrokey and native support from some browsers and operating systems like Windows, Apple and Linux.
          Please note, we implemented passkey support and not the full WebAuthn/FIDO2 specification available options.

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            To support passkey login via the cloudron cli, we will move to oidc login for the cli in 9.1

            Basically the cli will open a browser window to login and obtain an access token. For everyone using the cli in some automated pipeline, one can still use it with a pre-obtained api key from the dashboard.

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            • girishG girish

              We will be working on the following for 9.1:

              • Custom app build and deploy - You can git-clone any package repository and run cloudron install directly. This builds the app locally on the Cloudron instance and installs it. This simplifies building and maintaining custom packages. The workflow is primarily CLI-driven and targets developers building custom apps as well as users who want to apply patches on top of existing packages.
              • Community packages - can be installed from a URL via the dashboard. Cloudron will track the upstream URL and automatically check for and apply updates. Will allow people to publish outside Cloudron App store and users can easily install these packages and keep them automatically updated. For discovery, we will maintain a list either on the forum or in the documentation (TBD).
              • Separate notifications view
              • Mongodb 8, Redis 8.4, Nodejs 24.x
              • Acme ARI support
              • Backup Integrity verification UI
              • Improved progress reporting - show percentage complete and elapsed/estimated time for backups and app installations.
              • Convert backup site creation dialog to a view
              • Better eventlog UI
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              said in What's coming in 9.1:

              Improved progress reporting - show percentage complete and elapsed/estimated time for backups and app installations.
              Convert backup site creation dialog to a view

              Save these two, other features are implemented. Work has started on getting 9.1 release out.

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              • jamesJ james

                Hello @nostrdev
                We have tested the passkey support with the Bitwarden browser extension, YubiKey 5, Nitrokey and native support from some browsers and operating systems like Windows, Apple and Linux.
                Please note, we implemented passkey support and not the full WebAuthn/FIDO2 specification available options.

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                #26

                @james

                Using Bitwarden means keeping your secret on a potentially compromised device. Better to use a hardware key.

                The problem with both Yubikey and Nitrokey is that if you lose the device, you lose the key. Big problem.

                The fact you cannot recover a passkey, make those devices a pass, from us. Or at least, they must be used in a far more careful and limited fashion - ie, fallback to email recovery - than what would otherwise be the case (sovereign recovery).

                With Trezor - and other hardware wallets that use deterministic webAuthN - you can recover from a seed. This means that the loss of a device is not catastrophic.

                EDIT: Am reading the Trezor forums and apparently they do support Passkeys, it's just that the Resident Key is encrypted with the seed, and not deterministically generated. So for recovery, you just back up the file using regular cloud storage.

                Looking forward to testing it on cloudron, and letting you all know the results.

                https://trezor.io/guides/bonus-tools/what-is-fido2

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                  I'm so excited for this build. The ability to install 3rd party apps easily via the admin panel is a game changer for us devs - also passkey support will be amazing for those of us using bitwarden / other passkey apps

                  --
                  https://urgero.org
                  ~ Professional Nerd. Freelance Programmer. ~

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                  • girishG girish

                    We will be working on the following for 9.1:

                    • Custom app build and deploy - You can git-clone any package repository and run cloudron install directly. This builds the app locally on the Cloudron instance and installs it. This simplifies building and maintaining custom packages. The workflow is primarily CLI-driven and targets developers building custom apps as well as users who want to apply patches on top of existing packages.
                    • Community packages - can be installed from a URL via the dashboard. Cloudron will track the upstream URL and automatically check for and apply updates. Will allow people to publish outside Cloudron App store and users can easily install these packages and keep them automatically updated. For discovery, we will maintain a list either on the forum or in the documentation (TBD).
                    • Separate notifications view
                    • Mongodb 8, Redis 8.4, Nodejs 24.x
                    • Acme ARI support
                    • Backup Integrity verification UI
                    • Improved progress reporting - show percentage complete and elapsed/estimated time for backups and app installations.
                    • Convert backup site creation dialog to a view
                    • Better eventlog UI
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                    @girish said in What's coming in 9.1:

                    Custom app build and deploy - You can git-clone any package repository and run cloudron install directly. This builds the app locally on the Cloudron instance and installs it. This simplifies building and maintaining custom packages. The workflow is primarily CLI-driven and targets developers building custom apps as well as users who want to apply patches on top of existing packages

                    Is there any improvement for integrating this in a CI/CD pipeline? If I understand correctly it would mean we can do without using a container registry by default?

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                    • ruihildtR ruihildt

                      @girish said in What's coming in 9.1:

                      Custom app build and deploy - You can git-clone any package repository and run cloudron install directly. This builds the app locally on the Cloudron instance and installs it. This simplifies building and maintaining custom packages. The workflow is primarily CLI-driven and targets developers building custom apps as well as users who want to apply patches on top of existing packages

                      Is there any improvement for integrating this in a CI/CD pipeline? If I understand correctly it would mean we can do without using a container registry by default?

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                      james
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                      Hello @ruihildt

                      Yes. You will be able to simply run cloudron install --location $LOCATION from a CI/CD and the app will be installed on the target Cloudron.

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