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How to install Docassemble on Cloudron as a custom application

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  • timconsidineT timconsidine

    @loudlemur

    for a community custom app ...

    You raise an interesting point. Just because it is a community app does not mean it can be any base image. Community apps should be compliant to Cloudron standards. IMHO. If not, you might as well set up a separate VPS and deploy via docker compose, why have the hassle of cloudron compliance.
    I do see the other view point, I just don't agree with it.

    Rebuilding all of that on top of cloudron/base would have been a multi-week project

    I started from scratch using a cloudron base image, none of your code, different direction, at 17:16, took 2 hours out for supper & TV, then returned to the app. 1st working version at 21:08. So roughly 2 hours.

    Screenshot 2026-03-16 at 21.08.05.png

    I'm not saying that the app is fully built. But to get a Home Screen loaded is significant. I don't know the app, so not sure what to do next. That might take another couple hours.

    Not seeking an argument, I just don't agree that your approach to build from upstream image is correct.

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    LoudLemur
    wrote on last edited by
    #21

    @timconsidine That is fantastic, Tim!
    I was just trying a version 2 using the Docker Compose approach, but if you have managed to do it on the Cloudron base, that would be much better.

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      timconsidine
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      wrote on last edited by
      #22

      See https://forum.cloudron.io/post/121990

      Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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        #23

        Follow-up: one more config.yml directive needed to avoid Cloudron healthcheck failures

        A week or so after getting our production instance working, it silently went unhealthy on us. Worth documenting for anyone else who follows this guide, because the symptom is confusing and the fix is trivial.

        Symptom

        The Cloudron dashboard shows the app as "not responding", or the browser shows a Cloudron error page instead of docassemble. Inside the container, everything looks healthy:

        # supervisorctl status
        celery           RUNNING
        celerysingle     RUNNING
        cron             RUNNING
        main:initialize  RUNNING
        nginx            RUNNING
        uwsgi            RUNNING
        websockets       RUNNING
        

        Meanwhile, the Cloudron app log fills up with this, every ten seconds, indefinitely:

        => Healthcheck error got response status 501
        => Healthcheck error got response status 501
        => Healthcheck error got response status 501
        

        And docassemble.log shows repeated entries like:

        docassemble: ip=172.18.0.1 i=docassemble.base:data/questions/default-interview.yml uid=None user=anonymous 2026-04-16 20:47:50 Not authorized
        

        What is actually happening

        Docassemble is fine. uWSGI is answering requests. The problem is that it is answering Cloudron's healthcheck probe of / with HTTP 501 NOT IMPLEMENTED.

        Testing from inside the container confirms this:

        # curl -sI http://localhost:8080/
        HTTP/1.1 501 NOT IMPLEMENTED
        Server: nginx
        Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
        

        This is docassemble's deliberate behaviour when an anonymous user hits the root URL and there is no default interview set and no root redirect configured. It falls through to the factory default interview (docassemble.base:data/questions/default-interview.yml), which refuses anonymous access and returns 501 with a "Not authorized" body. There is even a dedicated /static/app/501.min.js in the response HTML, so this is a well-worn code path upstream.

        Cloudron's healthcheck expects a 2xx or 3xx at the probe path. 501 trips the unhealthy marker, and after a few failed probes Cloudron stops proxying user traffic to the app. The app is then effectively offline to users even though it is running normally internally.

        The fix

        Add a single directive to /app/data/config/config.yml:

        root redirect url: /user/sign-in
        

        Then restart uWSGI from inside the container (via the Cloudron terminal):

        supervisorctl restart uwsgi
        

        After this, / returns a 302 redirect to /user/sign-in, which returns 200, and Cloudron's healthcheck is satisfied. The sign-in page is a sensible default landing for a private docassemble instance anyway.

        Verification from inside the container:

        # curl -sI http://localhost:8080/
        HTTP/1.1 302 FOUND
        Location: /user/sign-in
        

        Give Cloudron 30-60 seconds to pick up the healthy state. The app will come back online in the dashboard.

        Why this probably didn't bite us during the initial packaging

        Best guess is an upstream behaviour change in docassemble itself. Earlier versions may have redirected anonymous root requests to the sign-in page automatically; current versions return 501 unless root redirect url or default interview (with anonymous access enabled) is explicitly set. It works on first install because the default interview loads once and caches, then fails later when cache conditions change or the app is redeployed.

        Suggested addition to the packaging guide

        Two options for handling this in the package itself, either of which would remove the manual step:

        1. Have start.sh ensure root redirect url: /user/sign-in is present in the generated config.yml if neither root redirect url nor default interview is set by the user.
        2. Add it as a default to the config template, so any new install gets it on first boot.

        Option 1 is safer because it will not override a user who has deliberately set one of those directives.

        Happy to PR this into the repo if there is interest.

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        • L LoudLemur

          Follow-up: one more config.yml directive needed to avoid Cloudron healthcheck failures

          A week or so after getting our production instance working, it silently went unhealthy on us. Worth documenting for anyone else who follows this guide, because the symptom is confusing and the fix is trivial.

          Symptom

          The Cloudron dashboard shows the app as "not responding", or the browser shows a Cloudron error page instead of docassemble. Inside the container, everything looks healthy:

          # supervisorctl status
          celery           RUNNING
          celerysingle     RUNNING
          cron             RUNNING
          main:initialize  RUNNING
          nginx            RUNNING
          uwsgi            RUNNING
          websockets       RUNNING
          

          Meanwhile, the Cloudron app log fills up with this, every ten seconds, indefinitely:

          => Healthcheck error got response status 501
          => Healthcheck error got response status 501
          => Healthcheck error got response status 501
          

          And docassemble.log shows repeated entries like:

          docassemble: ip=172.18.0.1 i=docassemble.base:data/questions/default-interview.yml uid=None user=anonymous 2026-04-16 20:47:50 Not authorized
          

          What is actually happening

          Docassemble is fine. uWSGI is answering requests. The problem is that it is answering Cloudron's healthcheck probe of / with HTTP 501 NOT IMPLEMENTED.

          Testing from inside the container confirms this:

          # curl -sI http://localhost:8080/
          HTTP/1.1 501 NOT IMPLEMENTED
          Server: nginx
          Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
          

          This is docassemble's deliberate behaviour when an anonymous user hits the root URL and there is no default interview set and no root redirect configured. It falls through to the factory default interview (docassemble.base:data/questions/default-interview.yml), which refuses anonymous access and returns 501 with a "Not authorized" body. There is even a dedicated /static/app/501.min.js in the response HTML, so this is a well-worn code path upstream.

          Cloudron's healthcheck expects a 2xx or 3xx at the probe path. 501 trips the unhealthy marker, and after a few failed probes Cloudron stops proxying user traffic to the app. The app is then effectively offline to users even though it is running normally internally.

          The fix

          Add a single directive to /app/data/config/config.yml:

          root redirect url: /user/sign-in
          

          Then restart uWSGI from inside the container (via the Cloudron terminal):

          supervisorctl restart uwsgi
          

          After this, / returns a 302 redirect to /user/sign-in, which returns 200, and Cloudron's healthcheck is satisfied. The sign-in page is a sensible default landing for a private docassemble instance anyway.

          Verification from inside the container:

          # curl -sI http://localhost:8080/
          HTTP/1.1 302 FOUND
          Location: /user/sign-in
          

          Give Cloudron 30-60 seconds to pick up the healthy state. The app will come back online in the dashboard.

          Why this probably didn't bite us during the initial packaging

          Best guess is an upstream behaviour change in docassemble itself. Earlier versions may have redirected anonymous root requests to the sign-in page automatically; current versions return 501 unless root redirect url or default interview (with anonymous access enabled) is explicitly set. It works on first install because the default interview loads once and caches, then fails later when cache conditions change or the app is redeployed.

          Suggested addition to the packaging guide

          Two options for handling this in the package itself, either of which would remove the manual step:

          1. Have start.sh ensure root redirect url: /user/sign-in is present in the generated config.yml if neither root redirect url nor default interview is set by the user.
          2. Add it as a default to the config template, so any new install gets it on first boot.

          Option 1 is safer because it will not override a user who has deliberately set one of those directives.

          Happy to PR this into the repo if there is interest.

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          App Dev
          wrote last edited by
          #24

          @LoudLemur well done, sounds like you have had fun (!).

          I'm not clear. You mentioned your production system - is that your own build or using my ALPHA community app ? Or you already cloned/fixed mine ?

          If the latter, I can try to make changes as you describe. But I am in the middle of a couple of big projects, so it won't be immediate.

          If timing is an issue, you might want to clone/fix and publish your own repo/community app.

          Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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          • timconsidineT timconsidine

            @LoudLemur well done, sounds like you have had fun (!).

            I'm not clear. You mentioned your production system - is that your own build or using my ALPHA community app ? Or you already cloned/fixed mine ?

            If the latter, I can try to make changes as you describe. But I am in the middle of a couple of big projects, so it won't be immediate.

            If timing is an issue, you might want to clone/fix and publish your own repo/community app.

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            LoudLemur
            wrote last edited by
            #25

            @timconsidine thanks. This was on my own version. I haven't got round to trying yours yet Tim, but yours is the one people should try.

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