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@LoudLemur very good ... now that I can read it A little "opinionated" in places, but that's fine if that's how you want to manage your AI. I prefer a little looser. Some things have to be told (e.g, RO/RW), others can be more guided. | S3 Storage | minio | Hmm, should we be saying this ? I don't recall the issues exactly about minio, just decided to stop using it as unreliable in terms of the future, so closed my mind to it. And I don't recall what is Cloudron official stance In any case 'minio' is not listed in Addons in Cloudron docs, so this should not be in the same section as the other elements. But plenty of S3 options, Hetzner, Scaleway, others. And I packaged GarageS3 with UI, which is working nicely for me (still a custom app) cloudron/base:4.2.0 I am packaging everything with 5.0 now Application expects: /app/code/config/settings.json → READ-ONLY at runtime You must provide: /app/data/config/settings.json → Actually writable Solution: Symlink /app/code/config → /app/data/config I think some AI can mis-understand this, that the emphasis is not only that it should be in /app/data, but that it must be called settings.json Better as : /app/code/[config/][settings.json|config.json|.env] AI will understand the point better. Control your AI agent, but empower it - it has knowledge and experience which you don't have. If you're too dictatorial, you'll get what you have always got. A little bit of permissioning, and you might find some nice new more efficient ways of doing something.

@scooke It is a bit like buying a fancy car. Having the luxury of that car is brilliant when you are actually driving it but when you need to sleep or park, it is a total waste. Generally, the high end video cards with huge amounts of VRAM are a luxury for most people, who instead make do with buying a much more humble piece of kit. However, if instead of buying the hardware outright, they pay for the car only when they need it, they can enjoy a much more luxurious and capable experience. So many new AI applications are being created these days, I think I shall start a discussion thread on it and what Cloudron could do to support it.

@saikarthik I deleted the registry config. mysql -uroot -ppassword -e "DELETE FROM box.settings WHERE name='registry_config'" Then, re-run the migrations: /home/yellowtent/box/setup/start.sh After the upgrade, you can re-setup the registry . But you have to shorten the password length to < 128 chars.

@LoudLemur late reply not sure I understand your question so this answer may not be what you want but in picture form ... [image: 1768330247721-mermaid-diagram-2026-01-13-185009-resized.png]

I would like to change some of these already. I want to ask which apps they might like to package in the future, and also what we could do to encourage more packagers to try.

@Shai said in Is it worth it to upgrade to 24.04 from 22.04?: I might as well get a couple extra years before having to remember how to do this again. Shouldn't that be reason enough? 24.04 is already a year old, time to upgrade from the previous LTS.

@joseph said in Cloudron made an appearance on the recent Fireship video: Thanks for sharing, not heard of fireship before. The first link seems broken btw Thanks! I updated the link.

@charlesnw said in What's the largest Cloudron you have seen?: In the process of packaging up a number of applications for Cloudron that a fully self-hosted business would need [image: 1746109026222-theofficemichaelscottgif.gif]

Also take in consideration that the base domain takes longer to propagate then a subdomain.

Of course Cloudron can manage multiple domains and put apps on those https://docs.cloudron.io/domains/

@SunDevil I'll keep sharing... I've tried Nextcloud on several different platforms, including JUST Nextcloud. It ALWAYS conks out on me. Always. So, my 2 cents, you'll have the same issue on Dokploy. EDIT: Have you even checked out Dokploy??? I just watched their intro video. They install their software on your VPS from their servers! What?? Sorry, I'm not letting some third party have that access to my data. You create your ssh key on their system!!! You have to create a db separate from your app!!! Good luck keeping track of all those deets. Holy smokes, the number of steps needed to get this thing running is exactly why most of us have come to Cloudron. This Dokploy is so at the opposite spectrum of Cloudron. I can't imagine anyone thinking it will be "better".

Maybe also an "Alternative to:" line ?

Sounds good! It was also odd that some other apps were affected by the restart-looping Nextcloud instances.

@pHneutre the best solution at present is to change your update schedule to be every hour https://docs.cloudron.io/updates/#update-schedule then it'll do one an hour until it's done.

Well just gone through the upgrade process on a fresh instance through Hetzner to Ubuntu 24.04: Upgraded to Cloudron 8.0 and took backup to storage box. Downloaded the backup metadata file. Wiped server with ubuntu image from Hetzner and apt failed to do upgrade, moaned about missing files on the mirror. Tried to resolve but I wanted to try out an iso installation from Ubuntu directly rather than using the Hetzner images anyway so gave that a go. Installing from ISO is actually easier than I thought it would be, there was no messing around with the routes as discussed in Hetzner docs. IPV4 works out of the box, I decided to take the netplan config file supplied by Hetzner's imaging process for my server and used that on the fresh Ubuntu install to get IPV6 working. After wiping and reinstalling the new system I changed the SSH port and then ran Cloudron-setup. It installed 8.0 for me as it detected a Ubuntu 24.04 install. In the setup wizard clicked on the restore option and supplied the file. Realised then I didn't have my storage box password so had to change that in the interface. However once changed the restore happened and all my apps were back in around 15 minutes. Nice work guys, and I've always wanted to test the bear-metal restore from backup.

Respect to @vladimir-d

@LoudLemur are you using a VPN? I noticed it causes issues for me too while on mobile mostly. Seems to work fine on desktop.