Indecisive : rocket.chat or matrix ?

[LoudLemur]

@timconsidine Did you look at Pleroma?

https://pleroma.social

[timconsidine]

@loudlemur hmmmm, not really.
It's an interesting alternative approach
Really I just want a WnatsApp/Viber/Telegram/Signal type of app which is self-hosted and has google-free android client.
Maybe I will have to consider Session.

[marcusquinn]

@timconsidine Session doesn't have Voice & Video, and it's a bit of a nuisance to get people swapping IDs.

Seriously, I'd go with Rocket Chat for businesses/orgs. Signal for personal. Then, look at alternatives to see if they are better.

I hate wasted time, and I do not believe this approach would waste yours. Be mindful of analysis paralysis too, my recommendations come from experience to save you from mostly the same.

[LoudLemur]

@marcusquinn said in Indecisive : rocket.chat or matrix ?:

@timconsidine Session doesn't have Voice & Video, and it's a bit of a nuisance to get people swapping IDs.

Seriously, I'd go with Rocket Chat for businesses/orgs. Signal for personal. Then, look at alternatives to see if they are better.

I hate wasted time, and I do not believe this approach would waste yours. Be mindful of analysis paralysis too, my recommendations come from experience to save you from mostly the same.

Session is soon to start support for Lokinet, which will allow video streaming, so keep an eye on it. There is currently some rudimentary support for voice on Session too. (You can press a button, record sound, and it saves the sound file in a Session message.

Telegram sends all its stuff through a centralized, proprietary server, and requires a phone for registration and Twitter account for technical support.

[timconsidine]

@marcusquinn : yes, possibly
certainly will be trialling rocket chat.

The real problem - all of my own making - is that I am seeking to de-google and most clients for messaging systems are GSF.
Apart from Matrix and Telegram.

analysis paralysis

love the expression, and yes a very real danger

EDIT : just noticed Signal have an APK on their site, and I was just checking FDroid & Aurora.

[DigitEgal]

@timconsidine said in Indecisive : rocket.chat or matrix ?:

Also those here who use Rocket.Chat : is it really mostly/only for messaging, or do you use the audio/video chat, and is it as good as Jitsi ?

RocketChat is more like a Slack/Teams alternative. Also you can connect a Jitsi or BBB Server but that implementation is not perfect.
Also at other Features like the Nextcloud connection i see some problems.
BUT! Users love it since its easy to use and got Apps for all Devices.
This Dark Mode Theme works great aswell.-> github.com/DigitEgal/Rocket.Chat.Dark

Compared with Matrix - that looks and works much more clean.
Also there are implementations into everything. Element App for Nextcloud is perfectly working etc.
Much tend to use Matrix and even the Teamspeak 5 Beta is based on it.
I always prefer own Voiceservers and hate Discord because of its bad Quality.

Atleast its about the usecase:
-> If you only need a Chat for a small group or a few projects, RocketChat would be the thing to setup fast and use easy.
-> If you want to built up more and already planned to install nextcloud, onlyoffice, jitsi, openproject, etc... -> go for matrix since the Element App in Nextcloud is much more stable than RocketChat using Nextcloud for Data.

[DigitEgal]

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[scooke]

@digitegal This sounds like it'd be better as a new Topic.

[DigitEgal]

@scooke agree - [https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/5895/berty-brax-bytz](link url)

[scooke]

@digitegal If you post it, they will come.