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How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?

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  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

    When I'm not working I tend to just close my laptop lid.

    When I open it again I have to login to Roundcube again. This is a minor annoyance I want to avoid (Gmail doesn't do this).

    On my first quick search it look like perhaps I need to edit or comment out $rcmail_config['session_lifetime'] = 10;

    (e.g. https://billing.hostnox.gr/knowledgebase/55/------Session-invalid-or-expired--Roundcube-or-WHM.html?language=english )

    But no such line is included in /app/data/customconfig.php

    Any ideas?

    I guess I could experiment with higher values than 10, but I basically don't ever want my session to end unless I manually log out.

    Edit: looks like lots of people have this same issue, see also https://issuekiller.com/issues/roundcube/roundcubemail/15073963

    Edit 2: this would seem to suggest it could be related to a MySQL issue:
    https://forums.cpanel.net/threads/upgraded-to-11-30-0-now-roundcube-saying-session-expired-or-is-invalid.212331/post-875951

    Edit 3: sounds like perhaps this PR would fix it https://github.com/roundcube/roundcubemail/pull/7709

    Edit 4: see also https://github.com/emtiu/roundcube-cookielifetime

    Sigh. The state of open source webmail is so abysmal 😢 (I wonder if SnappyMail have fixed this annoying issue...)

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    @jdaviescoates I realise this is not the direction of most replies/solutions, but if the programmatic approach does not deliver, on my Mac I have a utility which responds to triggers like laptop shut and fires off an action. I'm sure Windows has similar. Although the execution action may be a bit brutal (close app).

    Just a thought.

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    • timconsidineT timconsidine

      @jdaviescoates I realise this is not the direction of most replies/solutions, but if the programmatic approach does not deliver, on my Mac I have a utility which responds to triggers like laptop shut and fires off an action. I'm sure Windows has similar. Although the execution action may be a bit brutal (close app).

      Just a thought.

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      @timconsidine thanks. I'm on Ubuntu, but probably stuff on here too I could try if my turning off uBlock doesn't help...

      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

        @timconsidine thanks. I'm on Ubuntu, but probably stuff on here too I could try if my turning off uBlock doesn't help...

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        @jdaviescoates said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

        if my turning off uBlock doesn't help...

        Well, turning off uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger hasn't helped at all.

        I posted an issue on the Roundcube github too and they've just replied saying "this is not supported" and closed it 😞

        https://github.com/roundcube/roundcubemail/issues/8504

        So perhaps I'm trying to achieve something which isn't possible yet 😞

        Sigh. The state of open source webmail is so abysmal is makes me sad.

        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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        • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

          @jdaviescoates said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

          if my turning off uBlock doesn't help...

          Well, turning off uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger hasn't helped at all.

          I posted an issue on the Roundcube github too and they've just replied saying "this is not supported" and closed it 😞

          https://github.com/roundcube/roundcubemail/issues/8504

          So perhaps I'm trying to achieve something which isn't possible yet 😞

          Sigh. The state of open source webmail is so abysmal is makes me sad.

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          #18

          @jdaviescoates Yeah, Alexander is not very helpful - though you gave him a location for the config that is non-standard and Cloudron specific (/app/data/ something).
          Again, I use Roundcube everyday on my work computer and the session is kept alive even between reboots with the config described above...
          Is it browser related (is it Firefox?) - maybe try a different one? A setting that deletes cookies from time to time?

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          • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

            When I'm not working I tend to just close my laptop lid.

            When I open it again I have to login to Roundcube again. This is a minor annoyance I want to avoid (Gmail doesn't do this).

            On my first quick search it look like perhaps I need to edit or comment out $rcmail_config['session_lifetime'] = 10;

            (e.g. https://billing.hostnox.gr/knowledgebase/55/------Session-invalid-or-expired--Roundcube-or-WHM.html?language=english )

            But no such line is included in /app/data/customconfig.php

            Any ideas?

            I guess I could experiment with higher values than 10, but I basically don't ever want my session to end unless I manually log out.

            Edit: looks like lots of people have this same issue, see also https://issuekiller.com/issues/roundcube/roundcubemail/15073963

            Edit 2: this would seem to suggest it could be related to a MySQL issue:
            https://forums.cpanel.net/threads/upgraded-to-11-30-0-now-roundcube-saying-session-expired-or-is-invalid.212331/post-875951

            Edit 3: sounds like perhaps this PR would fix it https://github.com/roundcube/roundcubemail/pull/7709

            Edit 4: see also https://github.com/emtiu/roundcube-cookielifetime

            Sigh. The state of open source webmail is so abysmal 😢 (I wonder if SnappyMail have fixed this annoying issue...)

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            @jdaviescoates Facing same issue.

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              @jdaviescoates Facing same issue.

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              @alexlixs Can you confirm you are not a bot?

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                I just played around with this again and this seems to be working for me:

                $config['session lifetime'] = '10080';

                It's unclear if $rcconfig or just $config should be used or if either would work, but the latter, i.e. just $config, appears to be working for me.

                Also in previous attempts I was missing the 's around the 10080, and from the formatting of other settings in the customconfig.php I figured I'd try '10080' and then it worked.

                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                  I just played around with this again and this seems to be working for me:

                  $config['session lifetime'] = '10080';

                  It's unclear if $rcconfig or just $config should be used or if either would work, but the latter, i.e. just $config, appears to be working for me.

                  Also in previous attempts I was missing the 's around the 10080, and from the formatting of other settings in the customconfig.php I figured I'd try '10080' and then it worked.

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                  @jdaviescoates $config is the correct variable name.

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                    @jdaviescoates $config is the correct variable name.

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                    @girish said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

                    @jdaviescoates $config is the correct variable name.

                    Well, for some values, it seems that $rcmail_config is correct…

                    As said before, for me

                    $rcmail_config['session_lifetime'] = 10080;
                    

                    works?!

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                    • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                      @girish said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

                      @jdaviescoates $config is the correct variable name.

                      Well, for some values, it seems that $rcmail_config is correct…

                      As said before, for me

                      $rcmail_config['session_lifetime'] = 10080;
                      

                      works?!

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                      @necrevistonnezr said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

                      Well, for some values, it seems that $rcmail_config is correct…

                      I just looked up roundcube code and it seems $rcmail_config and $config are just aliases. https://github.com/roundcube/roundcubemail/blob/01b7dbd1a75bd712f4cac69f5aa421b049dd5d8b/program/include/rcmail_install.php#L159 says $rcmail_config is the deprecated name.

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                      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                        I just played around with this again and this seems to be working for me:

                        $config['session lifetime'] = '10080';

                        It's unclear if $rcconfig or just $config should be used or if either would work, but the latter, i.e. just $config, appears to be working for me.

                        Also in previous attempts I was missing the 's around the 10080, and from the formatting of other settings in the customconfig.php I figured I'd try '10080' and then it worked.

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                        @jdaviescoates said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

                        I just played around with this again and this seems to be working for me:

                        $config['session lifetime'] = '10080';

                        It's unclear if $rcconfig or just $config should be used or if either would work, but the latter, i.e. just $config, appears to be working for me.

                        Also in previous attempts I was missing the 's around the 10080, and from the formatting of other settings in the customconfig.php I figured I'd try '10080' and then it worked.

                        This was previously marked as the solution, but that hasn't done it either. Think I'm gonna have to give up on this one 😞

                        @jdaviescoates said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

                        Sigh. The state of open source webmail is so abysmal

                        You can say that again! Recent updates to Roundcube have broken logging in without an error and the CalDAV connection. 😢

                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                        • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                          @jdaviescoates said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

                          I just played around with this again and this seems to be working for me:

                          $config['session lifetime'] = '10080';

                          It's unclear if $rcconfig or just $config should be used or if either would work, but the latter, i.e. just $config, appears to be working for me.

                          Also in previous attempts I was missing the 's around the 10080, and from the formatting of other settings in the customconfig.php I figured I'd try '10080' and then it worked.

                          This was previously marked as the solution, but that hasn't done it either. Think I'm gonna have to give up on this one 😞

                          @jdaviescoates said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

                          Sigh. The state of open source webmail is so abysmal

                          You can say that again! Recent updates to Roundcube have broken logging in without an error and the CalDAV connection. 😢

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                          @jdaviescoates said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

                          You can say that again! Recent updates to Roundcube have broken logging in without an error and the CalDAV connection. 😢

                          I have neither of these issues on current Roundcube with Safari or Edge. No errors logging in and I’m staying logged in. What browser are you using?

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                          • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                            @jdaviescoates said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

                            You can say that again! Recent updates to Roundcube have broken logging in without an error and the CalDAV connection. 😢

                            I have neither of these issues on current Roundcube with Safari or Edge. No errors logging in and I’m staying logged in. What browser are you using?

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                            @necrevistonnezr said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

                            What browser are you using?

                            Firefox. But pretty sure I've tested in Chromium before too.

                            The other issues have been resolved by updated the CalDAV plugin but I still get logged out of email whenever I close my laptop lid.

                            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                              @necrevistonnezr said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

                              What browser are you using?

                              Firefox. But pretty sure I've tested in Chromium before too.

                              The other issues have been resolved by updated the CalDAV plugin but I still get logged out of email whenever I close my laptop lid.

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                              @jdaviescoates Sorry, but Firefox is not what it used to be (or the web has changed) - I gave up on Firefox due to so many sites not loading, not being compatible or other issues. Might be their strict default privacy and container settings.

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                                @necrevistonnezr said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

                                @jdaviescoates Sorry, but Firefox is not what it used to be (or the web has changed) - I gave up on Firefox due to so many sites not loading, not being compatible or other issues. Might be their strict default privacy and container settings.

                                That's it! (I think)

                                I just clicked on the little shield on the far left of the address bar and toggled Enhanced Tracking Protection is ON for this site to Enhance Tracking Protection is OFF for this site

                                Screenshot from 2022-08-09 23-02-48.png

                                Then I closed down Firefox and all my other apps and restarted my machine. Open up Firefox and I'm still logged in. Hopefully it'll now stay that way!

                                Thanks!

                                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                  @necrevistonnezr said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

                                  @jdaviescoates Sorry, but Firefox is not what it used to be (or the web has changed) - I gave up on Firefox due to so many sites not loading, not being compatible or other issues. Might be their strict default privacy and container settings.

                                  That's it! (I think)

                                  I just clicked on the little shield on the far left of the address bar and toggled Enhanced Tracking Protection is ON for this site to Enhance Tracking Protection is OFF for this site

                                  Screenshot from 2022-08-09 23-02-48.png

                                  Then I closed down Firefox and all my other apps and restarted my machine. Open up Firefox and I'm still logged in. Hopefully it'll now stay that way!

                                  Thanks!

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                                  @jdaviescoates said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

                                  Hopefully it'll now stay that way!

                                  It hasn't 😞

                                  But it's still WAY better than it was before.

                                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                    @jdaviescoates said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

                                    Hopefully it'll now stay that way!

                                    It hasn't 😞

                                    But it's still WAY better than it was before.

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                                    @jdaviescoates I added the url to the exception rules in FF (privacy & security section) and that didn't help either. I tried using Brave instead, no luck with that either.

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                                      @jdaviescoates I added the url to the exception rules in FF (privacy & security section) and that didn't help either. I tried using Brave instead, no luck with that either.

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                                      @humptydumpty yeah, I'm now leaning towards giving up on Roundcube and moving to SnappyMail instead as that doesn't seem to have this problem (and is nice and snappy too! and the CardDAV integration stuff is out of the box instead of having to install a plugin for Roundcube)

                                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                        @humptydumpty yeah, I'm now leaning towards giving up on Roundcube and moving to SnappyMail instead as that doesn't seem to have this problem (and is nice and snappy too! and the CardDAV integration stuff is out of the box instead of having to install a plugin for Roundcube)

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                                        @jdaviescoates I might end up doing the same 🙂

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                                        • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                          @humptydumpty yeah, I'm now leaning towards giving up on Roundcube and moving to SnappyMail instead as that doesn't seem to have this problem (and is nice and snappy too! and the CardDAV integration stuff is out of the box instead of having to install a plugin for Roundcube)

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                                          @jdaviescoates I always come back to Roundcube as Snappymail does not do full text search and hence is useless for me. Also sender aliases are much easier to set up in Roundcube.

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